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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:26:17 +0100
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC Abolish Narrow Margins
From: krakjoe@gmail.com (Joe Watkins)

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Afternoon Zeev,

I imagine you will not like what I have to say either: In light of the
recent actions you have taken and are taking to push incomplete software
into php-src on narrow margins, prematurely, it makes perfect sense to
discuss margins independently, and I intend to do so. Your opinion will be
taken into consideration when you cast your vote.

I do insist, and will not be waiting two weeks, unless you agree to delay
the JIT RFC until this issue is resolved.

Cheers
Joe



On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 14:07, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:

> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Joe Watkins <krakjoe@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 2:59 PM
> >To: internals@lists.php.net
> >Subject: [PHP-DEV] RFC Abolish Narrow Margins
> >
> >Afternoon internals,
> >
> >Some time ago I brought up for discussion:
> >https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abolish-narrow-margins
> >
> >I intend to bring this up for vote in the next few days.
>
> Joe,
>
> Given that time that passed since I brought up my wider-scoped RFC, and
> yet haven't pushed it through (some major things were happening on my end,
> as you may have heard...) - I can imagine you're not going to like what I'm
> going to say, but fundamentally - nothing changed.  It still doesn't make
> sense, IMHO, to discuss the margin independently of other questions - even
> if you explicitly mention them as being outside of the scope of the RFC.
>
> Also, given the time that passed and the importance of this, it should
> require a brand new mandatory 2-week discussion period before we go for a
> vote - even if you insist on moving forward with this narrow-scoped RFC.
>
> At the same time, I'd like to finally solicit feedback explicitly on my
> wider-scoped RFC, as I guess we can't wait any longer.  I'll send a
> separate email about that.
>
> Zeev
>
>

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