Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:103899 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68069 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2019 20:48:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ot1-f44.google.com) (209.85.210.44) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2019 20:48:40 -0000 Received: by mail-ot1-f44.google.com with SMTP id v23so273256otk.9 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:28:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FHCtYry2CE1Ykur4NOXSKqu7EoFCWfbIK5zBI4irdzg=; b=c4Nie0T8GBmvJEWeNF7SbgXswUFWPqTwp5HRuYrO09FhMrbWUf3d8Rl4CymSQJvvRp 3HT54Vw+hf6aK5ai3FHCQyQFVgrYQERo3swlQv+DNkBRCwfzyuOkZT+ZQJDw2sxpv9LN JHXLqKhs4Mr0DbPliSJ9A3Tyq8PqIEZLLv7kjW1MJjCeP+X+nqU0IF7NcNES8vSxP70p X6pyAyZRhktciHtg473Ghhz024TybJOY37flpi+QBayDKgrSiAgq68ozkjjgOsORjNd8 t4fgqo4bW1rmPZP1t7MEL2NEGc7EL6GIJTFWNAocnNkmnwOiD8IDaW2nE6G1FV8+2ps4 cDLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FHCtYry2CE1Ykur4NOXSKqu7EoFCWfbIK5zBI4irdzg=; b=J66keBzgGjoWIOnp99I9ymz80icQsiV/RZ/e4jzxLKTtToSD3IHZX6JuSPlBGIKMzd ETTUZHR+Uqa+CIsGCZ/yslF+Y4xAKnHhtiaDiDe7/P8hZ3zJ26pqe06thr/GiHtF//Xu Cx5YpoicLEsU8I/uNidkFcwL33/1P+gxCDh/a7KGsRUhkxujqsITjS2i5ZAQH9WK/y+n wzT7I/tp3W2GFkAysiwNsvX8IV6mkxHoW0T+OuGLXe23uX8CcnfDKEHTK4veiV9Qfolc tog0uWkexvtl2oURZ+fY+il8hAQ31XIPEclCR/sF1PTIHbk1WkZ4XMhYNe1XFZTZUKaH iaoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukdA4CoWt54k1DEyYONKSRTnQ1O8QX8VPown9SNCtvcWWDAz4ie/ cNVlJqdY9BQXWgXLHjrWrMIoTruw2uQ0eDJNVeA/hA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6nuwrZlNFp6BnL2ahQNcuNRna5DKHSx8pilJvPfSVo/5sWjebcWR2dQnkc1XhwJk1yZWkm/UivPpoPnf3eyHA= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:70cc:: with SMTP id w12mr19131351otj.280.1548869301226; Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:28:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0243D3A4-2C15-4B31-81A8-C2E5892913F9@koalephant.com> <2d8efb96-ed1f-28e4-e0fe-603a2d0f1962@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2d8efb96-ed1f-28e4-e0fe-603a2d0f1962@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 18:28:09 +0100 Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecation ideas for PHP 8 From: peterkokot@gmail.com (Peter Kokot) Hello, On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 23:40, Rowan Collins wrote= : > > On 22/01/2019 21:27, Midori Ko=C3=A7ak wrote: > > Can we also add strange function names without any naming conventions t= o > > this list > > In short, no. I wish we had an FAQ where we could avoid recapping the > arguments around this, but it has come up many times, and the conclusion > has always been that it's never going to happen. > > It would be great if we could invent a time machine and design the > language differently, but it's too late now, there is just too much code > out there to "fix". This now also means that PHP is making its inconsistency a fact and it will never ever be able to reach the consistency level it should be at... Specially, if more and more people believe this. I'm not sure this is the good approach in programming and neither is really a fact, but who am I to judge this state now. It would be good to avoid having FAQs and appendixes in coding standards for those function_name_ext_SomethingElseOutofblue() cases so that it might be still achieved one day. --=20 Peter Kokot