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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 16:28:40 +0100
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To: Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com>
Cc: Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com>, 
	Craig Duncan <php@duncanc.co.uk>, Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Making stdClass iterable
From: benjamin.morel@gmail.com (Benjamin Morel)

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> `stdClass` can't die due to a lot of backwards compatibility in existing
code (wordpress loves it)

I, personally, would LOVE to see PHP break things on each release of a
major version!
I fail to see how upgrading could be painful, with a good changelog and the
right E_DEPRECATED notices for a minor release or two, enough time to make
it run in dev and even production, and working on deprecation notices as
they appear in the log; this would make the language move much faster
towards a better language.

But I digress.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 16:18, Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 4:09 PM Benjamin Morel <benjamin.morel@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> >  We should never have added stdClass.
>>
>> Why not deprecate it then, instead of extending it and giving it more
>> legitimacy?
>> This would remove some of the "2 ways of doing the same thing", such as
>> json_decode().
>>
>> Ben
>>
>
> This.
>
> `stdClass` can't die due to a lot of backwards compatibility in existing
> code (wordpress loves it), but in any code I've written over the past 5
> years, the first thing I'd do with it is get rid of it as fast as possible.
>
> Making it more powerful will just make the problem bigger.
>
> Marco Pivetta
>
> http://twitter.com/Ocramius
>
> http://ocramius.github.com/
>
>

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