Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:103631 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35447 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2018 16:52:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mout.gmx.net) (212.227.15.18) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2018 16:52:16 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.103] ([91.8.175.134]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LzKyn-1hNu2v1Ppx-014U9I; Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:22:36 +0100 To: Dmitry Stogov , Levi Morrison Cc: internals References: Message-ID: <456be1f6-df57-9e1b-8298-f81564adf89c@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:22:38 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:t44QgzL71HzDNjIFyIHSK3luTFeWkiLq5g+lDX77Vt5PiMbTnhV DxIePCwcJBiZ0uS5GI/ih5Rz1M/EFnum7SNtn168gRpVRhPx5Rs7fkvgsAb3MZuJiH3vP7c k1avQCvob6cwHEzVRZtCrcUJ+cKQHFrF1z3IiLmmllduNMd9eo4djrY0jA6qzJRcw3v/L60 E6merC7d4CDlDyF6pgNZQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Nqv4WomT2Ko=:OJ2W/ZFavwA6wXh7nkd5Rv XetRB1yc2EBq+WQ6O0l9ihWN8X9V2P91W1oeiW1D9su0rtpbIPfKKS1sYMeCj9A7UmMEoPM4E zgk+sBjMoRG75HDngIRNyPi93CqTsVJ7RR4UjA1aMudWAvH34bXcZt80n2c8YxlE8fz5MfK+g TlW858lPhYHkBn97GKMl5k089IvBM+M4lsZuMineTy8j9uLXXSGFb5k03TvQoJimkrt6ZcDU4 d5FnI7f72inkBNM0mgj5U3tZiS6gInpH/6u/kLgQZdypTu1EHxtZlPWziFtqQYBteRw9ZCj+K /9KPtssjCdIpvw9yNeQiQjlXpfWvqz7cs8RL7rNCkppZlcUEW08MO3le4SJ1PTLw/9zYeMO5O hzcT8ZftaZNFK9i4CXfZ/EKKX1CbYey1cRwNnJH7w08Fh8Bej0SIaeHFJP+tGzcIJW9iwmmmx 6gyvTh4t5xryggzu032Tn1Hmy1t3/MhlJLrRgc22WijIYpA1CoUlW64Y7FY1vI1FtlGNoFaF/ IyBMOXY/Yn/2w8HhiluK6zej3k1G4PuevNoqIixCE1hWPaD0JIpjqpFcMIVJbjBKiN7aKJEJJ lSvuWtT6oFQ/8czCcApXdJb8aWIz369d2B2m0+XTJOo856ksHg4qQwwBGIcYACvcgnlP5rEQC 4E/F8ODU/001NG2958+ynR1G1anAqCiWYR9nXa++tgvLRaw2OQRnv1aIuHJLFqk8d9AMjycsS yQNPVC4UOk1uKLCIv5dPXN4YeNM8ePyBvdVmIZmGyAjF+xyBLdof42JRQ6CDqj57bdPmVxYnJ tMCPrOQA55ZTzwIdYcoMLYq5LwlqUvDjDjMtzA3fCiYMKlSN3VN4W0JzW2tEDaJM0rxy9r1mg ytAgel6cGeKzNmkdiEbXm5DU0aOEAvozk8OBImIgsWteZhLn6U8VcW+EaYewVz Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Vote] Covariant Returns and ContravariantParameters From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 24.12.2018 at 13:20, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > - The patch is incompatible with opcache (crashes on Wordpress, Drupal, and probably any real-life app). > > - the incompatibility with opcache, doesn't allow to check the performance implication of the patch > > - the patch has merge conflicts and travis tests doesn't run. > > > Personally, I'm not against the proposal, but I'm definitely against this implementation. > > Probably, it's better to cancel the voting and restart when the implementation is ready. > > > It's pity to see, that nobody tries the implementation but blindly vote... Well, one may argue that the voting is about the concept, but not about a (preliminary) implementation. The main concern, in my opinion, is rather whether it is possible to implement the proposal without (much) drawbacks (such as general performance regression). A working patch would be helpful to prevent cases where we accept a proposal, but later face difficulties implementing it and/or can't agree on some of the details[1][2]. We may consider to augment the RFC process to clearly require a working implementation before starting the vote. [1] [2] -- Christoph M. Becker