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To: Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] FFI - Foreign Function Interface
From: me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller)

Am Sa., 22. Dez. 2018 um 11:32 Uhr schrieb Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>:
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 4:13 PM Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi internals,
> >
> >
> > The FFI RFC is turned into voting state.
> >
> >
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/ffi
> >
> >
> > There were very few minor changes since the initial proposal, e.g.
> > renaming FFI:array_type() into FFI::arrayType()
> >
> >
> > Thanks. Dmitry.
> >
>
> My main concern here is that this is a very new extension and I think that
> apart from you barely anyone had a chance to actually implement something
> based on it and gain experience using the proposed API. Bundling an
> extension with PHP means that the API becomes frozen in time and it becomes
> very hard to change anything.

Same here, I think it's better to have it as an extension for now, so
people have time to experiment with it.

In case the vote passes, do we want to mark the feature explicitly as
experimental and not covered by the usual BC guarantee?

Regards, Niklas

> I think that having FFI support is important, but I'm afraid that once we
> bundle this extension and it will see more usage, it will quickly turn out
> that the API needs to change to make it easier to use or accommodate more
> use-cases.
>
> My other concern is platform support. FFI is by nature a rather platform
> dependent. The RFC says that the extension is currently tested on Linux and
> Windows. It would be great if someone using such a system can confirm
> whether it also works on OSX and FreeBSD, so we at least have coverage of
> the major platforms.
>
> Nikita