Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:103177 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89931 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2018 01:36:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mout.gmx.net) (212.227.15.18) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2018 01:36:04 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.137] ([91.8.166.159]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ltr89-1fcqa805zB-011DJO; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:42:16 +0200 To: Stanislav Malyshev , internals@lists.php.net References: <5518056b-150f-517c-2c24-09d5da4414f0@gmx.de> <3a3a59bf-98a3-764d-def2-e514f506edfc@gmail.com> <2e82ff1a-7045-3b7e-3feb-bfdac29883e9@gmx.de> <2f30a0da-c15a-8723-bebd-4143d49cf032@gmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:42:18 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2f30a0da-c15a-8723-bebd-4143d49cf032@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Ub8sEo0qbg7ZQxFLGkv1ESjmvtCi43xe7LL0TESdL+hM8LZZr3y yFfQYqtIHDyowG0dU3nUytI4YVJoV/vKGHX05lmTt9af8wBUSnr84x79jZCQwYnPqwesTcf GeSCOEj3zjn4iChNWPOI+Xqlb8FKis8ui4RjDsxD/MWcYf3LJtEy9VxF16L8JGWVL+RhGSY YLUIZh0xDd2CARnM19Apw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:vgWXGsuhy9Y=:9pF3X7RJji8SRcmxNz9CYS XNXXwlIxq8417Q3qCNB666ski/xufGJFbODU5ENn5RQfHxMOmcw7Horu+cjEN8rwvjxiw1rqU dN93GAoSQQ6Y3roomT7IBYYDMlk+O3aurMuqwaFZ381M7Md4HzsNWbpDrCLYvkU89azVlxk/t CyzIVmQoEnvLqiSYRknKSUd8t7tISn3IBmR8a+t+H6hwDnKrH3bLcZtCZHr3k4lPkXmzHbqbG 3XFCw8thOKS0c2bz19vfO6/h5UtJq/NMnRpoXlJz6ZwaikNu/hgYLvQdDpr46kgIwpLhReJnK 1EomIUc+iO5DzbMQxpU6v3M8yX/02bjYxhczPpM9oXJm3vOzYqMGYcWeGHKPZPdeHdWc2Gghc nZ+9mro7SufhgNkRcg44/QhKIt8176xEwOpChM8uwHNG67orM9MFk08LLV9vwcz3zUPlojaql UaiZ7dq+7kyYj0f52a2DpJZBCyZbJIa002kRaXmG2QWeCcvIoWrvpWjEoZwGtKkmGvaUdHoZc X72Sx7C0z7MBxC6fwgYTNUFHzxKzeue39T6LtQDDOmKa2aRHGgjgz86bBhf8ytjFTcFXn/ee5 2vb+3Dnn6ds3aKWFSJEeIj0yOIPaFxZJe6tzQJtAyvNS6WORKJ4cbaw9PAbEy49BVZ6kHTZEI QHSsZpiGjtrR1WCmNdc7aTumx4J+rlKffVUM7sbCRcMQoEqq6VyOjU5T+mkYYIwMth0XQvLV5 OswYuia/ZjXshI3NjlGdw5SuMSkFT6TexB0Bzfe67dvSg5PihtaqhB8v0MP4WTcuC0SUsKJE3 Nd/OF6KNVW6ZRNxnZc0gJIq2nMF1OHM9hdc1yBtGqIc93O2Bn4= Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC} Deprecate and Remove ext/wddx From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 18.09.2018 at 00:51, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > About the RFC - I think we can/should move it to PECL in 7.4 but need no > deprecation messages if we do. If somebody is using it, deprecation > messages would just annoy them, since there's no easy way to switch > except rewrite the code to use completely different extension (which > would probably require significant code rewrite). Hmm, I have some doubts that it's okay for users if we remove the WDDX extension in PHP 7.4 without any deprecation phase. Is there any precedence of doing so? The deprecation and removal of MCrypt appears to be somwehat comparable, but instead of moving it to PECL with PHP 7.1, we deprecated all functions and moved it to PECL with PHP 7.2. Furthermore, the deprecation notices *are* annoying, and it seems to me that is good, because probably nobody should continue to use these functions. They're unsafe for general data change, and there are likely better alternatives for the safe cases. Don't get me wrong: I like to unbundle the WDDX extension with the least possible effort as soon as possible, but dropping it appears to be simpler as possible. -- Christoph M. Becker