Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:103000 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56164 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2018 20:57:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Jul 2018 20:57:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.20 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.20] ([212.227.17.20:50649] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E5/38-14835-63DC06B5 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:57:27 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.101] ([87.167.201.185]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0McUnM-1fSwKZ3aaG-00HbtU; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:57:23 +0200 To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen Cc: Derick Rethans , Internals References: <5528540c-e80b-477e-ecb6-3e05c795956b@gmx.de> <87297ae6-c074-304b-4961-f86b8909557c@gmx.de> Message-ID: <056ac296-5328-de08-368e-81a421b8bdf8@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:57:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:O/xaMfXVV4JtamFDMS/wBsZeW3EuQ0IV/F+cMscYKXegWVwY622 j3yBQZgvTulF9JaI8RaoF+Jw6Qii4CZhT9qyLZO2/DM+pWLJH5dGoHbmWnHMLJ5Jh+YVzUk 8WXXysMrAl973UZCc8HidBJrzfewjaQDLCYks7rPF3fepXMK4dvDkjgMuT3Mvtc8H1FkMJQ 8s9wVC3yzhm7gAr72B1Dw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:z7NhsIemyLQ=:azvO74nxEd/64+QoM1txQi zuUkfiRAJzBbZrtW/d5X/EL6JZgrxKMN9GYGcbjRU+OJur3lzwXXL2E54f66pZUmLlq+P4XIb ku3wxVFgQ3yzuZqTKmjAV9wD/ZmwxTSufMbVCA8ZKemPMGSqnCubFFaYMSx/d6iWLM3Y8Ejqh xWcIs9cMpyyvOiof+wUYfmCaAZVYpA6kJ2Gvdt1F8KCFCuHECrmEw1A4LHeC2CTAgv4iVVfVi Uhh2uwv3lR80TkemkC1YAv0pfzGOGW8/gVzfzpboH3DteJWtAzCOPJYQgUtxt9cyTlJWzFn52 V/pLB3aEDYwrN8E0jt9sDr5srnXYZvYVAYNhJUtDijMSsvr0eiGszGPOsr6OLb8xQo5sgaHPg +2i7jWwYG+6B32Mcs3yEa0foypnDoyTZ9x8iOVSKTxxlcJP/bIZ3CFRf/2RrrdxoMJVgbuQxc 0G1wgtUOIWZ/dSLbvPxXdGf4bUypCbCodvqC31tE+Tedl742Tbrjy681AegfuR0b5RRCkFDYS zRpd7hsu2UYrPSnQ1NAzj0MnkwzS5DZQKVymJ1sT+HqccMhFU+4hq8NIXSjMOIUryXV9sBN4K dW6QA6Ai99N/fl9iAy37SbcbFo+Y2UM8h5JF54LqwqARMh2Vx8ttj4OOhxuRjpRvSPoggWtjV 7nx57uZERfUiYwZRPgl72So/H6Hk4Z8DNDcIKuA/oPjH+wwnyvjkLAXIj5sUzXnQWx6QiwAoq ubRP1rBedJLyJndtJOVsS6ZdHZ3WZ2WmKbWMKrkzwv4uNR3Jum3MLSMbqG1nvuMznLHPQ1sA0 OXyqUIS Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.3 branched From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 31.07.2018 at 18:44, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > Off-topic: Perhaps its time to look at alternatives and unbundle pear > instead of only seeimly (at a quick glance) keeping it alive for newer > PHP compatibility, which seems to have the main case for the last > couple of years. We had issues with pear releases at close to every > larger release in close to 10 years. Hardly surprising. I've recently seen some current PEAR code (trunk/master), and this was still written with PHP 4 compatibility in mind (lots of reference assignments for objects, for instance). > We have alternatives like pickle[1] thats fairly new or I'm sure we > can develop a tool capable of managing PECL extensions. > > [1] https://github.com/FriendsOfPHP/pickle I've never tried pickle, and I have no idea about its status and usability (after all, further development appears to have been mostly ceased[2]), but still it might be the best way to move forward. [2] -- Christoph M. Becker