Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102857 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10981 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2018 16:17:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jul 2018 16:17:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.46 mail-it0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.46] ([209.85.214.46:52801] helo=mail-it0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/4E-39793-205CC4B5 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:17:07 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f46.google.com with SMTP id p4-v6so21670263itf.2 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LC5w+81oY+KbtbBInkvb8xr6uWJq2IGkNy/UDS96dAE=; b=D6mz38nMtfz8ZuqMta+8OiiB5hMwSea0A21H+1BPH9COoRTTUuGLykRwdh7bWBkvgg dWglNM2ogwfcqaStoQYbuJDioFp2lpmDo5Bw6vFS0B/GPMYcLBo0DAbRAIZcZZwZlD8k /dBsqe7KbK4/VYqKx3B3I0piUXs8C6uBjhgoH7qmoY3gWqCayoFU7yzZ5KOV9ZHHRm1T +CceOLIJXQM7J8FcfXq7sXfjaNWwU/e9VJdjyte2dVRGWACshyIb7e+Qe7Cjh7zO+Z2v ZWFhy5KEvKtVNZHHhJhrukvNHcxu3bXxnZVcjstaPdlqvVyixUF/MYrw/CZ3xHmC0kEH yOBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LC5w+81oY+KbtbBInkvb8xr6uWJq2IGkNy/UDS96dAE=; b=m3TU2SPVLfYEqAw7ihNpL+DlGKGEowng9pLPN7rJXosUSSQtTaWwwxo0txCSIYkJP8 VX4YGsSdCqnUw9B1t38Uk7LvDnK71fjZV50rSX6CuuJjsUpcgyNOruVW9wN984uhpv4U AOEphAkt7tqghRclSwbKJwP9ir55/0YZGM4PVZSbdhMwzufFDp2LV9BybgDX8p3+PSYA ZupcAc3xm/LlEr6YdSxPmCKJk8AFtbt+182NcJ/HKvF6QQ6NACdfFyM5Yk32COSeY1nw 0gcEZGTU+BTC9BZW924U/hoNf0wbRjuhzv521J5si4XgMsnw7cOq3GN33ojqUH426kzi d8pw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFBc/vpKelF8QmouN8D0OKtdKQdCnaf37DodOdzSBolePpsHoz2 jeGLtlMbf/NuKOnip/bY7RkVpWsbR6/fXmJfrh8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpd9mXxntpQR3pHuKVgZhKWSYk7ThV0D5gfA0su07OF74dEE/4HbWW3as++jDM/6ZiUM1X71daS73ojeSBArjqg= X-Received: by 2002:a02:4d57:: with SMTP id l84-v6mr15084518jab.56.1531757824491; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:17:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:95a8:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:17:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8916EC21-D368-40F8-9ABD-CE0C04A73539@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 17:17:04 +0100 Message-ID: To: Wes Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000002c65e05712029e0" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Non-nullable properties From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) --00000000000002c65e05712029e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On 16 July 2018 at 17:07, Wes wrote: > This is definitely not as bad as the "billion dollar mistake" though. The > error still happens, but in a different place. > That's exactly what happens in most languages, isn't it? An error happens when you try to resolve a null reference, but by then it's far too late to do anything about it. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP] --00000000000002c65e05712029e0--