Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102783 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90371 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2018 04:37:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jul 2018 04:37:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pthreads@pthreads.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pthreads@pthreads.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pthreads.org from 209.85.217.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pthreads@pthreads.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.181 mail-ua0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.181] ([209.85.217.181:35717] helo=mail-ua0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8B/24-57182-01BD64B5 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 00:37:38 -0400 Received: by mail-ua0-f181.google.com with SMTP id q12-v6so17630636ual.2 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:37:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pthreads-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jZOsFM0mxX3VgYFfE1v+FQrbQS+/QVww+q6qwbZc0ZQ=; b=zC83MXbOGtKjZKpBBM4w6PM1eLcIFS1CLss2pP57vUM5MBSpQOT7o+CtDemJFmSzKX CDX0bJTDUjc6SRFhDonzBSYI6ZAR5twJl8MCTgg7KQmI1LE7JlHQkUIiXIV1Wxte8vS1 f138DEFGKMdF/25r2mQ64CSNe5Kk6LhLvqzlBP1jb+p5+eSEC79R7+hRR4KrVy8E8hid hyNj2Z/K+9q9boHkQ+vWPH34INkDUxncxqhk8Lbnq/f7btoBrOnABoynDoP8/DisTekI UzDtEVZhs2ixIWRx4GEmG4JxA5lAu5wbiTrklIQVpjoI90eSgrFKdb3htpqBD/YwFf+D EM1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jZOsFM0mxX3VgYFfE1v+FQrbQS+/QVww+q6qwbZc0ZQ=; b=fw3rPLG/n1TqBU12TLckhH6nnkEZURkBNNnyeJCinQS+nIl10dlM69qKVBG/4cDeJF xxr8ABlaX8ITYWZMfFQA1T8N12+U5cqv+2brJQF+1aVGLPQV4UzKLtC+RooV95Wqn6dF hUIGIQxrmRWWxPKmN7wrorUWiQD6qiZoQ8MoO056Bn0pb83avBJy9Y+WdI+QxY8JnQW3 6+TJA+8Ro47I9hCWmAy49t0MCLkAGg9HaOPqUvKqvAO8hNzOZMRc846SvsDTOsCvKnWc YwVVADR2a3oSFbeVpEUHRh9V8eAysVuQZvkBJ+E5YyeD/z7xHG3lTZC32GNRVhMTHW+T HGkA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlEnywYHkBow49VuHNPwkV8b/vBBw6M4Srg6MUHscs3vODDKClJR aaWTyQbxp3M7NiE4qjlKV9d/iKID9rJk5u6cIyfrGjDnnoU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpf0Rf9aCZZx0SSy4ogI+F7y4rudJC2MRFjUYxAmFLJb3QX5v9+tO2HYVpLduJ1ONPOSwLdEB8segMLUb/LjniI= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:136c:: with SMTP id h41-v6mr394084uae.193.1531370254068; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:37:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:6aa:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 21:37:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [213.99.153.150] In-Reply-To: References: <38809703-3aa1-34cf-82b9-019ee8788cb9@gmx.de> <58.E2.57182.05E864B5@pb1.pair.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 06:37:33 +0200 Message-ID: To: Sara Golemon Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000381580570c5ec83" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] abolish narrow margins From: pthreads@pthreads.org (Joe Watkins) --0000000000000381580570c5ec83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Zeev, > I think our voting rules are in need of a much thorough review than just pushing the limit to 2/3 - which also IMHO doesn't tackle the difference scenarios that exist out there. Agree, they need reform, but rather than trying to discuss and pass a monolithic RFC that tries to solve all problems, I chose (a year ago) to start here; Simply raising the bar simplifies the rules we currently have and so simplifies their reform (in detail and process). I'm not following your logic for further delaying voting on this RFC, in fact I don't see any logic, just an assertion ;) Cheers Joe On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 2:22 AM, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > 2/3+1 is silly, though. 2/3 already means there's twice as many agreeing > as > > disagreeing, having +1 doesn't serve the tie-breaking function there > that it > > does for 50%+1. But that was indeed a knife-edge RFC, it was actually > saved > > by someone chosing to vote Yes at the last minute. > > > I can buy that argument, but since there IS room to disagree, then > such should be spelled out clearly in the voting update RFC. Let's > decide and not leave it to subjective interpretation. > > -Sara > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --0000000000000381580570c5ec83--