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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] abolish narrow margins
From: vsuraski@gmail.com ("Zeev Suraski")

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Watkins [mailto:krakjoe@php.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 7:41 PM
> To: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
> Subject: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] abolish narrow margins
>=20
> Afternoon internals,
>=20
> I'd like to bring https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abolish-narrow-margins to =
vote in the
> very near future ...
>=20
> We discussed it a year ago, and discussion died down to nothing =
(possibly
> because it was sidetracked); If there are no objections I'll bring it =
to vote in the
> coming days ...


Last year I worked on a bigger rework of our voting rules that tackles =
this, among other topics - given the many deficiencies of the original =
Voting RFC (which was hastily drafted, approved with virtually zero =
discussion, and yet has been considered as some sort of constitution =
ever since).  I admit I didn't have the mental strength to bring it up =
for discussion but I think our voting rules are in need of a much =
thorough review than just pushing the limit to 2/3 - which also IMHO =
doesn't tackle the difference scenarios that exist out there.

I think it would make sense to start discussing that (as well as the =
abolish-narrow-margins RFC along with it if you prefer to put it to a =
vote) as soon as we're done with the 7.3 contents, and in preparation =
for 7.4/8.0 (i.e. around the September/October timeframe).  We could of =
course start discussing it sooner, but at least I don't think it makes =
sense to vote on either of these right now.

Zeev