Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102774 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60579 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2018 19:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2018 19:34:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.193 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.193 mail-yw0-f193.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.193] ([209.85.161.193:37904] helo=mail-yw0-f193.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 52/60-57182-BAB564B5 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 15:34:05 -0400 Received: by mail-yw0-f193.google.com with SMTP id r3-v6so9598599ywc.5 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:34:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=kZZslRnNv15xZCUunOdQ77jI/EEW/bO8hx338ocoUnk=; b=IAsvdsObdjU7wRCoLeMTKOp5Kic+E9irsgQprh8UaZ+17bmR7mW5+mL2q9+ifyr1HD WdnHQ3T3aBVX8iuLXjWA90owTwR3R6r2YUfQETQ2e9sBYIMfBFGSUtWQKBPQQYG/ot4K qP7wM4mvlYOUM3r/ZegA/DyMqUuofd2j+szPKsnqdi3vCI3o+Zlix7p025OaECkaNIml 020qYP0X13yVUGBiPMUIrwXtZFNw3Z+QEV51VbKW0zxvt6BMBtmPL+LB1/gMplLDfMS+ to1atCq3M9EjC+TA1BJVQURGXc467xtnyK/EO7mbmA4m+2X5T/6QT5Qd5+gsSY4Pu74z BDIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=kZZslRnNv15xZCUunOdQ77jI/EEW/bO8hx338ocoUnk=; b=Lqli+QxTz0MUi+s/gTODyM2AfboKhrJSpCaZTpIFNNkHla/m3oM3w8wIl7F88k3eV0 yN/Rpm0GjWonV2Qo/FlyDnt5PrtgXL2MTaYn42EqNSClOfe86k6Tdv5hvYVrYZx8Y5s8 5astap9a+4tMk1U0Y/f3FOouMXPr4wc2UY3K7Uu6mYyyKhi3u8OmBQMpxkmlIvfgrGT9 dVE1fRWiAxxm9ZfpgY1WqcgyK43gtNugxZGrVIwY1xQ1fS5fFQXI24v7tfyNtV05gKzF ml3ZhKiCOA16hbRlJdALnRRkSn26qFWpVon0pFlK4pSkEJUAeg3is3hmA7MCJ9z7v66C Z24A== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E37XigzDu7Y7rmZnObCfosrRTHvNc4t4Qi/59Yn7tSjW906k10u lCFL4qdaOpqXCEGG7aPHuFDxdGkS X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeO8J5jCJ0/I/vsAnQGvuV7BtcsA7TkU1ERkfNiXXytpnVbpeOpLrqXtXxCjZ4jF3YDIrVqNg== X-Received: by 2002:a0d:cd85:: with SMTP id p127-v6mr4150627ywd.237.1531337641451; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.66] (c-69-247-24-204.hsd1.tn.comcast.net. [69.247.24.204]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i204-v6sm10959702ywe.102.2018.07.11.12.33.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:33:59 -0500 Cc: Joe Watkins , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: To: Sara Golemon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] abolish narrow margins From: pmjones88@gmail.com (Paul Jones) > On Jul 11, 2018, at 12:10, Sara Golemon wrote: >=20 > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Joe Watkins wrote: >> I'd like to bring https://wiki.php.net/rfc/abolish-narrow-margins to = vote >> in the very near future ... >>=20 >> We discussed it a year ago, and discussion died down to nothing = (possibly >> because it was sidetracked); If there are no objections I'll bring it = to >> vote in the coming days ... Since you brought it up ... > "The current political climate of Earth It's probably less "Earth" and more "Western civilization." > votes that are won by narrow margins build resentment among voters Well, certainly among some. I have to wonder if this is a reference to = the author's favored political outcomes being thwarted. > can lead to instability in the ecosphere The "ecosphere" of Earth? That's an interesting assertion. I wonder if = it's true. > and could be considered harmful to democracy. There's a long list of things that "could be considered harmful to = democracy." In any case, are we turning this list into a political forum? Because I = for one can do without it here. I find it in plenty of other places. I don't have any more to say on that aspect of this topic right now, = unless and until someone else here sees fit to continue it -- in which = case, I'll be happy to respond. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php