Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102766 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43755 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2018 16:53:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2018 16:53:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=colinodell@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=colinodell@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.66 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: colinodell@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.66 mail-oi0-f66.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.66] ([209.85.218.66:39072] helo=mail-oi0-f66.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D0/4A-15421-526364B5 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:53:59 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f66.google.com with SMTP id d189-v6so50472269oib.6 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:53:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=tlbEmb5Wko6GsKfRkzJb5IfHuRQygiyfH17HxxwO1K0=; b=r1Bl8wSNFjDuhD2DpJGtdGMUR8RDr/Mu+8ZPzVOppXBUXiP9nWoHIKibqwFPO/D1Wc f3S6V1WvI8fkSgAvSQLpICooMryW2BFdnubo3MCwF0HKpam3sOfrVRbx6CYoiVz7d+n8 NggG5XOoybhYkkOzz+MmL4HcipKJ1JRDpSyHrdUCT5kYqPxeBM8AurzXmyPr8tXLI9Xi bcsKYaLuB3usRgkoVxgwTcr59r3NJom0zXFwVZpHM6+OHJetFi/gslro2AbO4zBVKQfr m+LqjkpCWXTDsPgdSDAYH5+kXSa8UuxWbB9xNescW4KU99fhmkycICepujAGp+8IDVUf VDig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tlbEmb5Wko6GsKfRkzJb5IfHuRQygiyfH17HxxwO1K0=; b=rgb0sv1vl0RDvKY+EXzXRFTvRvqAikQLmU9wQFCBbbHa0mgqY6K+f0IT9F4sTmrdT5 OqNqVzu7mKWtlculs/uMNaLa+NoEMPoWkbewHCt9aL72Y+vjxXx9q8Xo4MnU28NcXIN0 +wH7Dsl9g6oupPeqKKL6/3H0MfNmD23h095NJL8IenPjVPlNJ1V+TMLscBoKpIav8IDp jQC8YWORhY+AxYzcQxusY2A62t/fDdClLMrxefFg7RetdPmQ4b/o7OMfe9G+mogVZvm0 HFFmXRj0bbVg3cZhzjOmMrCJeMJJLB1kAUpU8Jgat2mAxnq6FGXBscHoODeQ+x9XlwH9 PYiw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlGIP1i3Dq8OqYcpsiEiA7ZybjqkRYSGkbDX9Pt2ZNFhQ/RdD/Po Ol/pM1xD5SURwx6PAeEQR9u6gYRc0EOYnsESw5o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpfdUqsbgi1ONx8fYP6AbkxN3pDvus+xeDb7NcgKBvbC92Gt7M9vYAlsuN6by0ln+9e4+m7mboBJ80ZcQsusXFA= X-Received: by 2002:aca:7203:: with SMTP id p3-v6mr81469oic.194.1531328034747; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:53:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 12:53:43 -0400 Message-ID: To: Levi Morrison Cc: mail@pmmaga.net, me@jhdxr.com, enno.woortmann@web.de, internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008bb9af0570bc174e" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re:[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] array_key_first(), array_key_last(), array_value_first(),array_value_last() From: colinodell@gmail.com ("Colin O'Dell") --0000000000008bb9af0570bc174e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 8:42 PM Levi Morrison wrote: > This is not how RFC feedback should be handled. I hope more people > vote no so we can reject this do it properly. > I agree with the spirit of this RFC but I also agree with Levi. It feels like this particular implementation is being rushed through without properly addressing some of the outstanding issues and alternate implementation ideas that have been raised. The only revisions to the RFC were the inclusion of the two value-related functions. IMHO, any RFC going to vote despite known "opposition" or requested changes should at least contain a summary of those points and counter-points, but if feels like those are being ignored here. So while I do understand the value of such a feature, I'd much rather delay its implementation than to rush it along with potential issues and no strong consensus. Respectfully, Colin O'Dell colinodell@gmail.com https://www.colinodell.com --0000000000008bb9af0570bc174e--