Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102756 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26562 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2018 14:56:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2018 14:56:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=vsuraski@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=vsuraski@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: vsuraski@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.180 mail-qk0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.180] ([209.85.220.180:43156] helo=mail-qk0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2A/E6-15421-6AA164B5 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:56:38 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-f180.google.com with SMTP id z74-v6so13716298qkb.10 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 07:56:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KTHqnT3OQPgUwbNKt2MMOXrbzC9NMLC4wh03N7Idjlk=; b=DfOc06xGCSbJFUZHI3KoVkcYTmaRQDpZRycnE7cwjutG+Q41TwPNCm/vl+UmBcGrGv jCG1eWtDyy1oCn33+Xt4GuccL7TiCRCNZt5ONLgdBSU/6l7y/kdYOCy0LYmWpVhY7R8R zizbELDn81/naMlfFSlgKjYN0zBez0YQBvLqlSqpHXZz/zmj2FAp3DloklnXJq4jy2IH +CH65nqKLrWihMwwGDmsBsrM+uK/e8iCOExolCm9+FXKABgdLMpp1eGuAYlcYt439NPk KgHJlPDGFQRTSPEErhOJf9bb4/EhIzcb0K+Gcc/qUGzUhTAhe2YvHv1Z9BbfBgKn2RfR Egtg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KTHqnT3OQPgUwbNKt2MMOXrbzC9NMLC4wh03N7Idjlk=; b=WRu9fVdtpgbpknHIJsDcc254UMRt46NBA092nx0js4sDVUAAWyaNUHT9/9OhXsfLIQ fQ13AuRXgvLdlUDtXjIOmII8hX5EcoI9RO+33xZaBNO0hDs/QAycCQ/ulcQ+jfchrmNN UMroBUYugXA4ZbA596/ZGGlYltxGI8/Ipe/kmy329Jr2TTsePKYO1O3+zktucesJMbC0 vtApAmOE8BGg2uvrUlVyldkaOet4jjs5mcSjVdX8Ay0yWB8wpBnKIsVmW0bwtlJrVpVI 7VrZLQGwSZNhID1VsnXeuvuKi70lJY2NRH4oWszBIrKRBvAAHrZ87J/v5de7mIrG/ogv xbBw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1DA8r5VjDMD6WYQTWVob6H8OaiFDsrBSL3gUlfR/AeZAwTrvc+ KyM+NsWorqln43B5ZZ5A89nFhJxQt8GtHOvK6s0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdhyLO4Yjz/lPABnWKawlWYX8JXT8hq0XCLwShwe3SPiVKjcdUqjHmphEu0utEGtM4jsIcuwQ9lZuj26xZONc0= X-Received: by 2002:a37:34cb:: with SMTP id b194-v6mr26439302qka.258.1531320995786; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 07:56:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8062036.rYxh8IFiYi@vulcan> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 17:56:24 +0300 Message-ID: To: levim@php.net Cc: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fdb3b40570ba7390" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties From: vsuraski@gmail.com (Zeev Suraski) --000000000000fdb3b40570ba7390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:44 PM Levi Morrison wrote: > > It is being rushed as far as the RFC process & discussions around it are > concerned - that's what I meant. > > I do not agree with this either. This has been previously discussed, > they have given it an ample discussion period, and it seems the only > reason it's not being voted on is because people don't want them to. > The only time I've heard about this was slightly under 3 weeks ago when Nikita sent this RFC to internals - where he himself alluded to the fact that this is "a large and complex proposal that may not be able to make the deadline". To be clear, introducing such an RFC for discussion (a large and complex one) after alphas have been released as opposed to months before alphas are released constitutes as 'rushed' in my book, and apparently in the books of others as well. You don't have to agree of course as we're all obviously entitled to our own opinions... Zeev --000000000000fdb3b40570ba7390--