Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102754 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21899 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2018 13:59:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2018 13:59:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=vsuraski@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=vsuraski@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.195 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: vsuraski@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.195 mail-qt0-f195.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.195] ([209.85.216.195:36185] helo=mail-qt0-f195.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 44/26-15421-F4D064B5 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:59:43 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f195.google.com with SMTP id f1-v6so21200286qti.3 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 06:59:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZLvRLneewwrJnaQR/Mzo0mk3MyAtDCpW+tULI6fquHQ=; b=fSVSgT1o6kKJpkXa+rIWyQTBKKCXKcs3ka4LpabxQlCs6wxz+yUzhnRiUAadU/Uk+L ZoTgH7WjisT17Z5nnXtbac7cVaigT7HwbWtD/OY6BBmRwJjLGvN7qAcfY4hqpKxwTByr J6+2YgctHGTMrI+FSahf/2ZzCuCEqs43iwCJa4O0ShOdPWfTS0fpSH1JZUYBpodEXIgd PkKu3bUEBSvlHZfS1qQERkJt3sJhuwgQt7FjCNGWRwMlkqE+z3cB13vMZPUvYsyimvdL JCviEOC2EIrFyEUdxWmm3RIinXLYJVax/pFHKV0CJjEnKNBuqDUIysIba05QYgkOPd8u Y5Gw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZLvRLneewwrJnaQR/Mzo0mk3MyAtDCpW+tULI6fquHQ=; b=ZMRgD+1M3V4HFRsccnQo3GMw0U+8M482HzrFyuFAYTBeAEtbSqnXC+u2i9yyreWwAe UPwlOwifYvVw+sFXCs9PVB/wANQUqf93kdETqWeOL+CGTGbHpQUOk5D4Ogslz9/okLQs G0tJ0eaLfUgrA4Kt+DDgaufnihWWN+FlZuQPZdX/iiib9MtjD5I+6eakyZQzL3UEhDnG 3Od+Di3kuJ8DCPM+Dc0CgIA/+1Gk+GUTQ0dIkFUBedWMVRMibdXRQ4Lw84u2Pe0kN0hA 9qxOE8uLTjxLCDNBwivFoAub+8wCm7A/MeuT6IEhSMYKWNlxU6j67eD1ed3MXa94NffP qoHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E062g+rQkpiRyBBP7p2awbrmkUG4yAdsSuZcYxxhIWlFI6U2kDP rOvSjqmlwySCKIfTV5UiQzRh3fHvtDo9n4jsoP4A6Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcEaZPV2HcZbR0kpRl/WKyO0No+2d02mJExF8mEXVyFGLluyB/h8DZe48NysyQ8TA97uRaN6aHcC5FflqHmx68= X-Received: by 2002:aed:2392:: with SMTP id j18-v6mr26954357qtc.384.1531317579726; Wed, 11 Jul 2018 06:59:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8062036.rYxh8IFiYi@vulcan> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 16:59:28 +0300 Message-ID: To: levim@php.net Cc: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000060c44b0570b9a8d7" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties From: vsuraski@gmail.com (Zeev Suraski) --00000000000060c44b0570b9a8d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 4:44 PM Levi Morrison wrote: > > My logic is quite simple: > > 1. Something as big as Typed Properties shouldn't be a last minute, > rushed > > RFC. Really - any RFC shouldn't - but in particular major language > changes. > > I have seen this sentiment expressed elsewhere. I want to personally > affirm that Nikita and Bob have been working hard on this for a long > time. This is not a last minute change being rushed. They have been > quite thorough and have discovered and fixed many edge cases that I > suspect other authors would not have found or would have ignored. Yes, > it is being voted on in the narrow gap between first alphas and > feature freeze but that does not mean it is rushed. > It is being rushed as far as the RFC process & discussions around it are concerned - that's what I meant. I did not dispute for a second that the patch looks thoroughly thought out and a lot of effort went into it - it's very evident and I acknowledged it already. Zeev --00000000000060c44b0570b9a8d7--