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To: Dustin Wheeler <mdwheele@ncsu.edu>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On not rushing things at the last minute
From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon)

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Dustin Wheeler <mdwheele@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> That said, if feature freeze for a release is announced well in
> advance, published,
>
Depends on what you consider a proper announcement[1], but it is
published[2] and the date can reliably be expected to occur around
mid-July until and unless we change the GA date (FF is 18 weeks and 2
days prior to GA, GA in turn is approximately 4 weeks before
Christmas).  I'll admit that the publishing of the 7.3 timeline came
very late this year and that's on myself and Remi.  The RM selection
process should have started two months earlier than it did.

> and there was an agreed "best intentions" policy
> to not submit RFCs that encroach on that date,
>
I had hoped there already was an agreement on this.  Seeing the SIX
currently in voting makes me doubt that understanding is shared (okay,
in fairness, Class Friendship isn't targeting 7.3).

> That, or subconsciously, the talk of a new version of
> PHP sparked folks to get off their ass and put forth their ideas! :P
>
That's very likely a contributing factor, especially with talk of 7.4
being deprecations focused (something I'm finding myself agreeing with
less and less over time).  This isn't new to this year though, even if
it's been less pronounced till now.

-Sara

1 - https://externals.io/message/102031#102031
2 - https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73