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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 12:21:05 +0200
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To: Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties
From: nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com (Nicolas Grekas)

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2018-07-10 11:18 GMT+02:00 Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com>:

> It's been a few weeks since this has first landed here, and we're just
> wasting time in relatively silly discussions at this point:
>
>  - As I said earlier, this patch has already been tested against some
> extremely tricky scenarios, so from a userland perspective it is safe for
> inclusion. If you don't have confidence in something related to it, please
> write a test case and help out.
>  - can we get a yes/no from the RMs on whether we'll have the time window
> to (potentially) get this voted and (*if* passed) merged? Shoot out a mail
> with the decision, please. We could have a vote for which version to
> include this in, if that's really such a big issue.
>  - can we split out discussions on 8.0 scope? Minor versions are indeed for
> features. If PHP 8.0 lacks interesting/marketing features, that's a
> different story.
>  - Nikita/Bob: can this be voted upon right after the RMs have taken a
> decision? Anything blocking missing?
>  - Is the reference issue reported by Nicolas a blocker? Nicolas, can you
> clarify here?
>

I'm definitely ith you on this one Marco, typed properties is something
userland asks since a long time and postponing it to 8.0 for "marketing"
reasons might be very frustrating (well, we'll deal with that if it happens
:) )

But technically, it feels almost ready.

The reference issue looks "easy" to fix(esp. when its not me doing it yes
;) ). It'd be better to have it at the same time, but I can wait the next
version as I don't want to be the one with a blocker here, and also because
I can write a "degraded mode" for now if that's the plan.

Nicolas

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