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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:16:45 +0300
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 7.3
From: vsuraski@gmail.com ("Zeev Suraski")



> -----Original Message-----
> From: php@golemon.com [mailto:php@golemon.com] On Behalf Of Sara
> Golemon
> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 5:41 PM
> To: Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de>
> Cc: Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>; Kalle Sommer Nielsen
> <kalle@php.net>; Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 7.3
>=20
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Christoph M. Becker =
<cmbecker69@gmx.de>
> wrote:
> > Sorry, that there has not been any decision yet.  However, Sara
> > suggested that this decision is not solely up to the RMs[1], and I
> > wouldn't know how to decide it then[2], since there has been at =
least
> > one objection[3].
> >
> To clarify, it's ultimately an RM decision, but it should be guided by =
the larger
> internals@ group.
>=20
> The way I read Zeev's objection is that it's primarily against TP, and =
not against
> pushing out the FF per se.  I would recommend (in a non-RM, unofficial =
capacity)
> pushing out the FF (not necessarily GA, but we can make that decision =
later).  If
> these last minute things pass, they go in.  If they fail, then all =
we've done is
> burned a month.

It's a bit of both really.

I hope that with all things considered (the little time we have left, =
the little concrete discussion that happened so far as a result, the =
inconsistency of allowing such a vote to push out feature freeze, the =
scope of this feature being a lot more suitable for a major release, and =
our inability to fix/improve other related elements at the same time) - =
Nikita will propose this for 8.0 instead of 7.x.

Zeev