Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102672 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12262 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2018 16:43:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jul 2018 16:43:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.15.19 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.15.19] ([212.227.15.19:59481] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 95/D7-49043-9C0934B5 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2018 12:43:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.101] ([79.222.41.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MGAdz-1fq4Cg3X3H-00FBZC; Mon, 09 Jul 2018 18:43:49 +0200 To: Sara Golemon , "stas@php.net" Cc: Nikita Popov , Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Internals References: <5153610d-abed-b21a-ec55-56d967128cae@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5af0dc07-5daf-764c-15f8-334235e60020@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 18:43:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:uuzC1PpuHQebQCqQeFSUK7G44dWkNhu7ZnxRxkjtJCeImT3uDpY yGluo49TIxO16Q9gEllOkOZj2G6WfZhAU2BPDO0OTTQgY4p179Yd4szV54am/ShzkcqY+P3 BJ/0n4qccklv+tAqzikAVaOY4fJzAbsodts5FgQ5eB43A3wF/iyhUA/MUf+NRY8V13lL5E1 3045XyEl9HIrBZCcLkrmg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mYoAWLDAYjs=:r7mZ58/Db65NQYxw1h/9Th M9X79NGVK14tsXY2Sp1c5zTUfWEQ5CpV8YJ34q7RY3gT6H9WDXAQi85qexrgduCnfVCevt94B T9mdAhVxONHXRtpB2AkKFFqjEYNwHaj/GPp11iC0LqE2cS56c9jsk4U8cCvM4pH+e4dO8t9Xe C+vLXmGUMEYJwcY3X7EUrLg5jNiB+EDEgpQDl6uOQObh0Pk+JNQm6Vn05T3oiguOhpZ9u4qEI j79LmBtlPXSeL4e8zB6ZperAbwQiG4ojhfjoXjgGLQZNheiXAnS+ZSZjfgJhnyeIXNDPsJNIQ 0pJlbTVj+uNpwCHQbN4PU6/EHkTTYdPolrOPQo4y1WwA5L4gjObETYIJ/w99HgLPBkinmI2ZJ h+cm1vIC02iwTWulvXYzTbjcNY23dWDgkwGeXw8ZiTxtJxh74asGlV81aSpMRjy9mcFreidij ly+QLoRJfyait6bK8lqdyQIEchATXOO7/w4nIHjUvfyfXokWbEfz4wBqgNSaizMBIRScx8++Q QDiaCxa3xEtrbMKVmumMYAs5VXz6DbsVgjucJEtEc8iMqLgkh6kdCdwDbqCvQnzjbcStgdGTK Ss25oWucgAtU8S/Afo4oRXhoeTRbsXjOHy7DFnUYJY/liB/NEIOlF0S4HhqLEn37tEF2OyCCo Cid0Tocw+MuFofMO5FGB3tIEzS6x0jlRCubTIaoWn9WtAR9uk/WHeugz/bK32lXeGPcnRVoIT zcZjSir6W6xfNjPCxMXTNHD1vQEwHI+ffyDOVQNxnehc49FXfLJajgp9juiYpyVKCOq4BMjOq oaPMk7m Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 7.3 From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 09.07.2018 at 16:40, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > >> Sorry, that there has not been any decision yet. However, Sara >> suggested that this decision is not solely up to the RMs[1], and I >> wouldn't know how to decide it then[2], since there has been at least >> one objection[3]. > > To clarify, it's ultimately an RM decision, but it should be guided by > the larger internals@ group. > > The way I read Zeev's objection is that it's primarily against TP, and > not against pushing out the FF per se. I would recommend (in a > non-RM, unofficial capacity) pushing out the FF (not necessarily GA, > but we can make that decision later). If these last minute things > pass, they go in. If they fail, then all we've done is burned a > month. Perhaps we would not even “burn” a month, considering that several extensions are still incompatible with PHP 7.3[1]. Anyway, I'd like to hear Stas' opinion on this matter. [1] -- Christoph M. Becker