Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102665 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97755 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2018 14:40:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Jul 2018 14:40:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.208.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.208.42 mail-ed1-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.208.42] ([209.85.208.42:43689] helo=mail-ed1-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6B/45-49043-DE3734B5 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2018 10:40:46 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f42.google.com with SMTP id u11-v6so14122341eds.10 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2018 07:40:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=/8EiVj4aGaMl00q5ONl3EW+xJubWI8WyybG+4dfju4I=; b=APwRsREDlik713IXsDydNMz+w/H3gRdOtKwp8Mb+Izyz7Tv71rX0GvpbwZwEmb8Rfk SyTyRCX4StydlXGT84B6emHJQOQzjjoLYc3+HyJJRMsTPoGMk0Cfiz/6yT5I15KCDa/3 /fjTEX4D6yEAPuSOp7Z22zfHYgpifHqVkfqhzZVWHP2G6MrXM06y26tPXdXZwX8OhZwQ MjC4arna2NVGwnoXjnXzeCW9W56SyqAnWhhfbOBi56SpluhQ832C4EcNoGz918lpMV0u +64Gmk0xb9HmxhTMLngjoTHKQkuPcR+T2YujOvbijUEBYY+na5h2rvznfLcz3h5qEq9K HZLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/8EiVj4aGaMl00q5ONl3EW+xJubWI8WyybG+4dfju4I=; b=mbxyxNOdC5YhzjQuOdDca6QVrYwfp88q67RAckzUCWqB54qpeSJuDpOAZlN5qhIySw A2ndao+6vPDHly3fITprPYsHuB7yM1OjcWKkuyp/PZ1rs3sGIcTEsjbaXj158kBhma1x ofVgYepaUmKgRWzSmVqEM3j9v4ZMkXTmMmiYxw8oy43gZt6xjmoIPK9V5So8UvU7trnL f8MdGKk5DrB6FbCiLxE4GILN3403vs4+owVHGdpvGmNHeaT9C8in3w06nbFIIJuXwFwc u9zMhihl7bf9F+jwGQqRwP3wzW6OQxPz3f6Zoz3aZi0s+RjtrDwyIdVLDLXi6acUB6oQ s2lg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E001JidkSqvH5l0qZsHGrqge9TBfjFOG6qoo3H73LOXlcWQAln9 gg2ksY6ij0E82gl3/8COnsYzcGZwoU5+NCjYAXZdbw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeBlh37JYsVKnL5NwuoRGtRhvRD1UoxSRoJ3orRFID/EJhuuBDm+8w4xVOv1qPePjvA8qGYvRW8n3yEmxdkO+4= X-Received: by 2002:a50:cd07:: with SMTP id z7-v6mr2052528edi.60.1531147242896; Mon, 09 Jul 2018 07:40:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 2002:a50:8617:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jul 2018 07:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [206.252.215.26] In-Reply-To: References: <5153610d-abed-b21a-ec55-56d967128cae@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 10:40:42 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4EZqpEb4Bl278abaFoHAKkPWjHc Message-ID: To: "Christoph M. Becker" Cc: Nikita Popov , Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 7.3 From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > Sorry, that there has not been any decision yet. However, Sara > suggested that this decision is not solely up to the RMs[1], and I > wouldn't know how to decide it then[2], since there has been at least > one objection[3]. > To clarify, it's ultimately an RM decision, but it should be guided by the larger internals@ group. The way I read Zeev's objection is that it's primarily against TP, and not against pushing out the FF per se. I would recommend (in a non-RM, unofficial capacity) pushing out the FF (not necessarily GA, but we can make that decision later). If these last minute things pass, they go in. If they fail, then all we've done is burned a month. -Sara