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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties
From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker")

On 08.07.2018 at 01:35, Sara Golemon wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Why should we have 2 additional alphas?  In my opinion, a single
>> additional alpha is sufficient, and it is really important not to add
>> yet further features.
>
> Because in the best case scenario (with a single extra alpha), the RFC
> is ready now, and the vote for it opens immediately.  After two weeks,
> we get a yes vote and we'll be right on the edge of ready for
> FF/beta1.  Adding that fifth alpha gives us breathing room for
> something short of idealized circumstances.

I see!

> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>
>> and independently - should perhaps go hand-in-hand with fixing the
>> flaws of the non-strict types - something we can do in PHP 8.
>> If we do the latter, then perhaps, just perhaps, we can introduce it
>> hand-in-hand with typed variables - and if we do, it will be sensible
>> to do it at the same time and not in a gradual rollout.
>
> And that's a decision we need to make, NOW.  We need to know in the
> next 10 days if we're going to move forward with a 7.3 that doesn't
> contain TP, or if we're going to push out the betas until we can
> solidify it.  Waiting to make that decision is making a decision by
> default (almost as bad as making the wrong decision).

ACK!  How should we make this decision?  A vote in the Wiki?  The full
RFC process is no option anymore.

-- 
Christoph M. Becker