Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102646 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1931 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2018 08:42:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jul 2018 08:42:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nicolas.grekas@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nicolas.grekas@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nicolas.grekas@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.51 mail-oi0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.51] ([209.85.218.51:34310] helo=mail-oi0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0E/88-55607-77EC14B5 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 04:42:31 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f51.google.com with SMTP id 13-v6so30764116ois.1 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:42:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=W0HzVQ6+NCFbMg+aiIXWQ0IKOj4YXNoac1Ly5i4uo78=; b=RXUYs3kTOmBtnEffMjMP4OGiC1GJ3Bb8SRzr1W0yPLtPoAnx3rI1NFqIyX+xrlpGVK 4trCQq/GdU26P1Ks1L4T7fZ2GAsMI8M0vPsqWKejt+i1BXga0Q42eQ28sNBxqaHtKecz FUkjebr2Epz4Yzf2rN1MqifmvexRryDvkoWKUUpV1Di4dMetMT7LecxtCQpxAsGOw1d5 JY5czUjuoe/je0noplHKQvYkvflXhFtg6mwqUevMHIH79IVj77btEMuMMI6OANrf4ZQz KOE8+Wo8zj8qPWeoXKYE39TDG5pjIDMlZciplZ2zu5kF1woHzhK1V2KYLvkPIdrCza1k huYg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=W0HzVQ6+NCFbMg+aiIXWQ0IKOj4YXNoac1Ly5i4uo78=; b=tmoyY4m5GFOrMwJ7T/p/NhJkjOubcWs9XEPMRsuMF42Gx/iYXB5A4oDxJmDQBWIzwT ko0gqOMf/fKWTeHrFSTSuOj/7OnDMjUoq7kQD8No+a5BBqL0GRzgfgQHu4Wdw47ZUPMh wJJ9qDhHZQLzB8+GeTypX7iiBw9gMhqLnzF7v3+YywMMffxFp+0asyuC7Pce3BqK+y4s F5/kuMQ314w3ycQZQhYFjaeWvZxan+RRCopi52DnrZ6Yh7YHnku4He0BzJY3jJjsIBfk PqVFMlcIoMgxdA4eKACCIrm32GXwauADNwN1KJS+bsIpIWgVAydLf9L4tcSrW+BNpdFL 8PAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E01U+qeRllSXiywFRy9d52ApXCdXBXmZfq2sw5qaCX2uWrUDOC8 pIIWDa3cWeQ6Z8bdZ7f06mq23Ua1l/Umol5CpRY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpfHWF3qwkWnq2AVPFMyRHHxLQEZp4HE55Bwb8JddxTYRa5Oqja/fny/wMEHxqBsuQ41LepyYAYkzA1EmeI2YLI= X-Received: by 2002:aca:c70f:: with SMTP id x15-v6mr19259265oif.97.1531039348897; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:42:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nicolas.grekas@gmail.com Received: by 2002:a4a:1e45:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 01:42:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:42:08 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dcxu3EKx01IZ9kBSQ47eW7BaV8s Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000873dbf057078e099" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Introspection for references From: nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com (Nicolas Grekas) --000000000000873dbf057078e099 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Nikita, Before talking about solutions, can the people who need this first outline > what functionality is needed and what it is needed for (and maybe what > workarounds you currently use). E.g. do you only need to know whether > something is a reference, or do you need to know whether two somethings are > part of the same reference, etc. There are probably multiple use cases for > this with different needs. > We're using reference introspection to do both: we need to know when a zval is a reference, and we also need to track each of them separately. The use case is being able to intropect any arbitrary PHP datastructure, with one main application: providing an enhanced "dump()" function. See e.g. this screenshot for what we get using the dump() function provided by Symfony VarDumper component: https://symfony.com/doc/current/_images/07-hard-ref.png In PHP5 days, Julien Pauli wrote a PHP extension to do zval introspection. Here is the code + README (see test case 001.phpt for example with references.): https://github.com/symfony/symfony/tree/3.4/src/Symfony/Component/Debug/Resources/ext With PHP7, using pure PHP introspection is easier to maintain and still very fast so we deprecated the extension. Here is the code doing reference introspection: https://github.com/symfony/symfony/blob/master/src/Symfony/Component/VarDumper/Cloner/VarCloner.php#L83 it might not be easy to follow, but the basic blocks are: $array2 = $array1; $array2[$key] = $unique_cookie; if ($array1[$key] === $unique_cookie) => we found a reference then we also maintain a registry of $unique_cookie so that we know if we already saw that reference or not (the check is done before the above "if" or course.) Cheers, Nicolas --000000000000873dbf057078e099--