Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102645 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 190 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2018 08:28:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jul 2018 08:28:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ocramius@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ocramius@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ocramius@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.48 mail-wm0-f48.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.48] ([74.125.82.48:52801] helo=mail-wm0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8B/38-55607-73BC14B5 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 04:28:40 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f48.google.com with SMTP id w16-v6so18192856wmc.2 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:28:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Y+Fje4KDZTwgL3vkcxZtYbSJb9hb8yzF4vGDYBriF3k=; b=ba4n1FbvGOHreSf21vsocwUQBSqPQJSw7Qibi+eDDMKIdmNxEoeDq4Vy2KAxxUWC1n FF5x0sLDU4qUF2Lgn4BhwcTfIAabXrXr1Q/jYwUSlz692WaK+39BD2/uIShIowy3GeIe mmBsDl1ohmL73gYR2F77ypOkRqbVZYVsGXe9EtH0+LO+P78ch2ctPL+/7zmf5BllS3Uh FGj6g/v0YtbG489aXXkth1JHLgjDKEfAQ0ixy0oC173Jmrdiby+75mKCuBaosudl1MK5 hCOpyOe18RmILmcMIB5RcxfVwSldcLjlZUaw2VqKaZsNFRPr9QOAyh2FaM8d7Q+p+MdW UvMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Y+Fje4KDZTwgL3vkcxZtYbSJb9hb8yzF4vGDYBriF3k=; b=oHgEIAKTEyR1q/CVWdNO2AnrCwTvExwiMiE6Z2OTe4R5pQuvkgSzHmgDm0xyiOL9dP LUJ3h/BqzeQd+XGY52ZfTVqZV8HxGCqsn+haezjF1SUTtu33LqmVkUetc8xwgRr+Voaw cnRjP1uznxqEiFl8iMdKGyvs82zZC91Fb7WxQzwNZXSdZhBXzAK3oR3Qgs+Lm/+gRamB LWCtgF8e77KoafgptsxsIWYrsiUn5sk2cTPiHBTHlc+VtZesq4sTIiAzmzl0iAlIpih/ dWbFQU8wRClNgAm0jZefcEijAvHJmADnzvC8Il57/Zp5try+38P9NwEACQbusHYxLnWh RgUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3vWEcY1cyyxeUiRuod+JeeyE8RmCUKFWo16TkEVD4z4uJRDUAW eQCfjrKeLYOjTvQsbOdhRqFTGDTfL+nbGMH8MrQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcBbm1PBTpDCzGtGFUR/LbfNyda+PzX2NGvAGJO8zOE2CdQpfwai3fLLXGVSL5ANYIZBdEBj+uAdEp3ndkhkDE= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:6d41:: with SMTP id i62-v6mr9308857wmc.25.1531038516160; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:28:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <10e578d7-7a24-3ca0-ca0d-d5ed1a39dca3@telia.com> <80a8f588-05a3-48e5-bf40-bf1685b3105e@gmx.de> <5cc6a95f-0033-3a8e-2cd6-dc47d0a41730@gmx.de> <65f1b8bc-a78f-39bc-a544-edcfa41a3119@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <65f1b8bc-a78f-39bc-a544-edcfa41a3119@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e4add8057078aeb8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta) --000000000000e4add8057078aeb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Lester, Typed properties combined with value objects (quite widespread technique) provide a decent level of safety at this point in time. So far, there haven't been many nay-sayers to the patch: it's OK to vote "no" if you don't understand or don't want the feature. Greets, Marco On Sun, 8 Jul 2018, 10:19 Lester Caine, wrote: > On 08/07/18 00:35, Sara Golemon wrote: > >> Personally, I think even independently of typed variables, typed > properties feel like an 8.0 feature, not a 7.x feature. > >> > > I probably agree with you on that. (Again, still undecided). > > The debate seems to assume that Typed Properties ARE a done deal even > without a vote? Personally I just feel all this is still going in the > wrong direction and trying to work out where to go next is still > detracting from getting new work done. In practice if I need 'typed' > anything, I need types that actually return an advantage, and > unrestricted 'int' and the like is NOT providing that! > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --000000000000e4add8057078aeb8--