Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102628 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92739 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2018 20:46:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2018 20:46:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.15.19 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.15.19] ([212.227.15.19:35769] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 33/7E-55607-C35DF3B5 for ; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:46:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.101] ([79.222.41.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LtIZH-1gGLts29Fr-012pxG; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:46:47 +0200 To: Sara Golemon Cc: Nikita Popov , "stas@php.net" , =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=c3=b6rn_Larsson?= , Dan Ackroyd , Stanislav Malyshev , Marco Pivetta , PHP internals References: <10e578d7-7a24-3ca0-ca0d-d5ed1a39dca3@telia.com> <80a8f588-05a3-48e5-bf40-bf1685b3105e@gmx.de> Message-ID: <5cc6a95f-0033-3a8e-2cd6-dc47d0a41730@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 22:46:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:TQ/bJSWlndqrY8EXf1XCCBcSlq83POPyqB0rKX1kJXDOZx/7eWj gPULnqrP2DgEryhGuKvyhRGPCtYXJ2dcSrJUEnybRW6Fo5cFc3Uz2quWu86x1Boni/TOXWs n5AxJDeXtNI5UIF48kJvHeVlLaiRg8yUmfAye/Aanope/miDTmNdsfh/TszxVY9d0kqJfAA 3/PH2WXigYV2Ih2T4iyFA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:sCMh7IN0fZY=:dPVwZvLihkFidVU8J6SnIo BdMfz6AeCvmbvROVMYbXh2oMlO3LOpH0D2qO47te29cE7ApWfMaFhz176Fc/VQq2wC421Omz4 es5YZvCrhlQDeFq0Qps1VbT+MgnssWB7WBkwz0IC+iwefrmzOspCYcGEM5hUJOWy0XEkCy1aj s+bUYzXbxolOXru+aq0ouzE5f9bhEcB0mWuDtdXYNngH1OzCAp7hE1BQGnJJAPNp8XrxLJXGp vtSI935hmN3LIDNzrXsblNacZ341XaqnvOvYNQHcAx0eTHc/DUOuyD32VEPy1fd6YKnUfya8s SFVk2lknLI6K2axGnynm6ImaYKlm+/UBatgUrBmsHVHcZXsx33lK0c4gJpdrs8lgaaGmDXXp5 MgUbvYRdNjwEIBxp8UchwXtq/49XpamT8Ww6AUdo/LwzWpfkqdWeTQLcA7AZj4XCGaPWBtP+v 9qYEOR7tu6RYnvOGjSRrxD240kf9L5FQooUWScUPPZk8Nf46jDv2xgbxKVXjbii9R1mbstEhU 6sYaTRz+fHVeJJyqc6RqgCUXRsd/B5xyH9TLDQa4OpZSfb91hWkNgGkWbVcWvGJm0wbpRRaQa +eByPfukHs+rrXyAEUO2q/oVQepKzDz7YSaedmMtnzD7w0Pxb06wh+sSRDggAfmAikEpTUufb 1inTP+UCET1ZbotBIBj8XOSbSNnzKAAcRdUgc7HGJVrLhq7OwNU1vpWWha2CiLkAT4lMSfRef 4pTVQKF5uZXpx3ZVWKAHUodxkOq53npeTfaJYFZZoUkukTnzcVve6cWDxmDrkY2SWxqq9hbas pD5Lvwz Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 06.07.2018 at 21:35, Sara Golemon wrote: >> It's up to a combination of internals@ opinion, and RM best-judgement. >> I for one, see no issue with pushing FF out (we can do an alpha4, even >> an alpha5). On the other end we have the option of reducing the >> number of RCs, or pushing GA by the same delay. FTR; I'd favor >> pushing GA out over shortening the RC cycle, but I wouldn't lose sleep >> if we wanted to keep the GA date where it is. > > Just want to be annoying about this since the currently scheduled fork > date for PHP-7.3 is 11 days off. Thanks, Sara! :) > 1/ Do we have *ANY* objections to additional alpha(s) to accommodate > Typed Props? (I would propose two additional alphas) > 2/ Do we actually need to hold a formal vote? (If so, that vote should > start *now*) For me: no and no. > Assuming the answer to both questions is 'No'. I'd like to propose the > 7.3 RMs update https://wiki.php.net/todo/php73 to reflect a new > schedule with alpha4 and alpha5 and (provisionally) only four RCs to > maintain the same GA date, but that we should revisit the topic > sometime around the new RC2 date. Why should we have 2 additional alphas? In my opinion, a single additional alpha is sufficient, and it is really important not to add yet further features. -- Christoph M. Becker