Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102613 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12450 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2018 18:41:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jul 2018 18:41:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.208.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.208.47 mail-ed1-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.208.47] ([209.85.208.47:38499] helo=mail-ed1-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F8/75-55607-8566E3B5 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 14:41:31 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f47.google.com with SMTP id a5-v6so6887043edt.5 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:41:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=eo9XttKBmytAPx86Yf7eGSRQVliElDuCW/FdGT9vWxM=; b=yFenWPWxNWZEvJSt+tJyCA2A7WRVRdw/gdK1XjLFGrdmZBCClBy9NMutb6Zfjay+Ue FTPuebmILtMkN2xYG98oHj8Ne5IZluxBzasqGAe6o+r9VHjYrN86GzgorpKFDKjxMjZs jxssC0dn3DFkvN5QVP4yqvgQtyXjNUbSeywAhUS7VsT/BvCSSm/qWSxLaOK6GktQdopf Q9U/+qtIaxD1UZSAQkQBgcJhIFtDtNXlZt48ZSSFGQdF/RSFu0FxhvxCfAt8Vk92jcVR bM/Zt87sbVlaXE/xNtLrGH5BaNJ/fAJyu25W3Th8CJJqx1yVAWo10HM43FZFXnhynElK JgNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eo9XttKBmytAPx86Yf7eGSRQVliElDuCW/FdGT9vWxM=; b=NUVX3xPAZjcv0x5KzYRdw0z0RQpxqDMuO/XY5vh3F+VD2c579sz3/1Squ08IEh0e9S qV4RhCqFBK0SWLWoZ/RCTANJkVj0WF0dOZd9+m08UK22kkfVPqOsdqUwmGvYLrsuFjEO cQwGk5eJT8nbHGqRr5Poa8uRrKTYgbe6tjflG4slK9l3PS1gpyxKryCuOcfnKgl8yIJe dVGRFzr6aXAWi+noqqVH/HkGBLImDJOlUWc8OsysBe2yAUYMyG+TK6Ll1HR6JZJ14/OT 1i8l4nQXbkZmW3K0QuzCCJEvEtBc+0PnaSJJRWMfIJVCPJJK24nHHFBYOUpQj5Tj7NAp 64WA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1VJBBSdImtBrMnYd2uG+GOErN80Ju57kZ1gdXi93raABd/QGZa XJ+Jm+8Kl5u6jGNGrkLxyaq7xCCEInY7kjm65Tve/w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpfcc0VaJ0MWzQURULVlynqn4sH8w36XoYj31MdBuFKaEIjc0/bL3yTlflksqx0dy3qwwhX2ANK3Snzr1U70JB4= X-Received: by 2002:a50:8f23:: with SMTP id 32-v6mr7773504edy.192.1530816086178; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:41:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 2002:a50:8617:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:41:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [206.252.215.26] In-Reply-To: References: <10e578d7-7a24-3ca0-ca0d-d5ed1a39dca3@telia.com> <80a8f588-05a3-48e5-bf40-bf1685b3105e@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 14:41:25 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: A13XopfjLqzzSVQQH2JyqV-mxew Message-ID: To: "Christoph M. Becker" Cc: Nikita Popov , "stas@php.net" , =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Larsson?= , Dan Ackroyd , Stanislav Malyshev , Marco Pivetta , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Christoph M. Becker wrote: >>> Is there any precendent for postponing feature freeze during the (late) >>> alpha stage? >> >> This was done for the PHP 7.1 release at pretty much the same time (before >> the beta1 release it was decided to go with another alpha instead), for >> much the same reasons (pending RFCs, though I don't remember the >> specifics). See https://externals.io/message/94330 for the announcement >> mail. > > Ah, thanks, Nikita! Considering this, I'm not against delaying beta1 > for two weeks and having an alpha4, provided that we do not allow any > new (i.e. not yet under discussion) RFC to target 7.3. > > Stas, what do you think? > It's up to a combination of internals@ opinion, and RM best-judgement. I for one, see no issue with pushing FF out (we can do an alpha4, even an alpha5). On the other end we have the option of reducing the number of RCs, or pushing GA by the same delay. FTR; I'd favor pushing GA out over shortening the RC cycle, but I wouldn't lose sleep if we wanted to keep the GA date where it is. -Sara