Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102610 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1161 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2018 15:37:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jul 2018 15:37:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.21 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.21 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.21] ([212.227.17.21:57109] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1D/F3-55607-64B3E3B5 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:37:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.102] ([79.222.41.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MUDXS-1fjNmV1BHW-00R3u9; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 17:37:37 +0200 To: Nikita Popov , "stas@php.net" Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=c3=b6rn_Larsson?= , Sara Golemon , Dan Ackroyd , Stanislav Malyshev , Marco Pivetta , PHP internals References: <10e578d7-7a24-3ca0-ca0d-d5ed1a39dca3@telia.com> <80a8f588-05a3-48e5-bf40-bf1685b3105e@gmx.de> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:37:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:6bZj8jPdCKvAPkLZOiZvG9y7+PUU0dIiayz3QfmSjGBQMriGbry PfG6shcMqD60teSopTH49aY02PVW+2fltZOmynhxG/Z1UcauXvyy3g2RTeX/S8lbRDYXdXm qUlBbgLLxumgr0QmPhbCPa4Q+VQgOwPGTn51fOpJ/AmsgPaeGKMBD6krw9UVnv/0extyo/v X5IJAEzjEuhM59sZpInCw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:huDS89SFVUw=:aMs/PNBGMQkgQiiMYvou4t 0GV8PFwC7Knrqhj5eFi56712fIyoXzcAQs8kzcv8+FUHTF60G4yzIic9YVfokGASKair79cHP bSvbiEzFr46JczrARbJ30bwYREtq+SPkZMZph+LVK+1cQ6igwX6uUuXCmIjeFlfIPD9vK51rU +dRw3wiLXY4aYH9uEFhkcefN+6CN8Fq0e5vzR9fS0ga/ygHB67quXXNENZrKaaTEv03pekfIQ RxNinLuf2PyZv93pdYR8IaZk081IJcnsuLry6ZX/IM3f2GcLF4azllsQtqlL2RNov1syKdObR oFv6XyMmmXiOXWBwT2dfMs7UjD9f3kmsViEwVzVRetVxdfAuJ+ePovE+/QO068RjgU218nCAK Q4t2qlrvXz9+RlCPzbWBq0uXdRhgMxl/4tOqUURZ2OIuU6pvqhanPHPL+dHWR2SqZ/ZCp8Eqi zFntSRyyXueMIElsJgwn5o+hFsPMIZi2rlamBZNObsxRA/CkL010B/7gQHXj13sfnL735vAbU SAhICKIzv/XJ1tQAKuXPZ84IymUrdNeFt6ZERBVkno7EPtsQmiHXhticMjpM9A+aBV3neICBu ptwBR9flkmlmSpi/MUCpf/JNywF1Eof5q8DrXV1M15MnDaqauLoqLSFFpz6xedCXxdkOlGie1 +CL9mXp0g169q0g4SELW2JME5TYKxbmj06N1lLuYx/a4OEyqTyjczsCwpP5jAfjmjwa3XtJUT PNuHD69e6KLvv/d+t1tVKReSnJ9DlbdtMxIJX0vaZgLK8dTHz/obGlwaWHG/w1fFcUQ92nlEB LE88gob Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 05.07.2018 at 17:25, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Christoph M. Becker > wrote: > >> On 05.07.2018 at 13:05, Björn Larsson wrote: >> >>> Den 2018-07-05 kl. 12:17, skrev Nikita Popov: >>> >>>> As such, I think that this feature can only go into 7.3 if the release >>>> schedule is adjusted. Extending the schedule by another 2-week alpha >>>> cycle >>>> would be sufficient to land this proposal in PHP 7.3. Otherwise it will >>>> just have to wait a few years for the next applicable release (based on >>>> recent discussions, it's not entirely clear whether that would be PHP >> 7.4 >>>> or 8.0). >>> >>> Sounds like the RMs for 7.3 need to weigh in on this. >>> For me I think it's worthwhile delaying two weeks, +1. >> >> Is there any precendent for postponing feature freeze during the (late) >> alpha stage? > > This was done for the PHP 7.1 release at pretty much the same time (before > the beta1 release it was decided to go with another alpha instead), for > much the same reasons (pending RFCs, though I don't remember the > specifics). See https://externals.io/message/94330 for the announcement > mail. Ah, thanks, Nikita! Considering this, I'm not against delaying beta1 for two weeks and having an alpha4, provided that we do not allow any new (i.e. not yet under discussion) RFC to target 7.3. Stas, what do you think? -- Christoph M. Becker