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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 23:59:23 +0900
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties
From: shinji.igarashi@gmail.com (shinji igarashi)

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https://marc.info/?l=3Dphp-internals&m=3D136093001212358&w=3D2
Maybe the opcache case in PHP5.5 is a precendent, I think.

2018=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=885=E6=97=A5(=E6=9C=A8) 20:26 Christoph M. Becker <cmb=
ecker69@gmx.de>:

> On 05.07.2018 at 13:05, Bj=C3=B6rn Larsson wrote:
>
> > Den 2018-07-05 kl. 12:17, skrev Nikita Popov:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Bj=C3=B6rn Larsson
> >> <bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Den 2018-06-21 kl. 20:41, skrev Sara Golemon:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Dan Ackroyd <danack@basereality.com=
>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 21 June 2018 at 17:49, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I think it's better not
> >>>>>> to feel pressured by the deadline for 7.3
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> The deadline isn't a deadline - it's just the current consensus for
> >>>>> when we'd like to see 7.3 released.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If people thought this RFC needed more time but would make PHP 7.3 =
a
> >>>>> lot better, would there be any harm in moving the 7.3 release back =
a
> >>>>> few weeks?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sure.  I would *far* prefer that over jamming this in without any
> >>>> change in the GA date.  We have to be careful about exactly when we
> >>>> push it to.  The current GA date wasn't chosen arbitrarily, but with
> >>>> concern regarding the proximity to the holiday season.
> >>>
> >>> Any chance getting this into 7.3? I think it would be a
> >>> great addition. According to Marco Pivettas mail from
> >>> 26/6 it works flawlessly.
> >>>
> >>> Givven the current discussion about 8.0 it feels a bit
> >>> way off having this to wait for this feature until 2020.
> >>
> >> We have recently finished the last major change to the implementation
> >> (switching to https://wiki.php.net/rfc/typed_properties_v2#
> >> references_without_intrinsic_type -- the RFC still needs to be updated
> >> for
> >> this change). However, there is still quite a bit of refactoring and
> >> polish
> >> to be done. Unfortunately, we are running out of time. There are alrea=
dy
> >> less than two weeks until the currently planned feature freeze, before
> >> which the vote must be finished and the implementation merged. For suc=
h
> a
> >> major feature, I don't like the idea of rushing the vote to such a
> >> degree.
> >>
> >> As such, I think that this feature can only go into 7.3 if the release
> >> schedule is adjusted. Extending the schedule by another 2-week alpha
> >> cycle
> >> would be sufficient to land this proposal in PHP 7.3. Otherwise it wil=
l
> >> just have to wait a few years for the next applicable release (based o=
n
> >> recent discussions, it's not entirely clear whether that would be PHP
> 7.4
> >> or 8.0).
> >
> > Sounds like the RMs for 7.3 need to weigh in on this.
> > For me I think it's worthwhile delaying two weeks, +1.
>
> Is there any precendent for postponing feature freeze during the (late)
> alpha stage?
>
> --
> Christoph M. Becker
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