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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties
From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker")

On 05.07.2018 at 13:05, Björn Larsson wrote:

> Den 2018-07-05 kl. 12:17, skrev Nikita Popov:
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Björn Larsson
>> <bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Den 2018-06-21 kl. 20:41, skrev Sara Golemon:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Dan Ackroyd <danack@basereality.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21 June 2018 at 17:49, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's better not
>>>>>> to feel pressured by the deadline for 7.3
>>>>>>
>>>>> The deadline isn't a deadline - it's just the current consensus for
>>>>> when we'd like to see 7.3 released.
>>>>>
>>>>> If people thought this RFC needed more time but would make PHP 7.3 a
>>>>> lot better, would there be any harm in moving the 7.3 release back a
>>>>> few weeks?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure.  I would *far* prefer that over jamming this in without any
>>>> change in the GA date.  We have to be careful about exactly when we
>>>> push it to.  The current GA date wasn't chosen arbitrarily, but with
>>>> concern regarding the proximity to the holiday season.
>>>
>>> Any chance getting this into 7.3? I think it would be a
>>> great addition. According to Marco Pivettas mail from
>>> 26/6 it works flawlessly.
>>>
>>> Givven the current discussion about 8.0 it feels a bit
>>> way off having this to wait for this feature until 2020.
>>
>> We have recently finished the last major change to the implementation
>> (switching to https://wiki.php.net/rfc/typed_properties_v2#
>> references_without_intrinsic_type -- the RFC still needs to be updated
>> for
>> this change). However, there is still quite a bit of refactoring and
>> polish
>> to be done. Unfortunately, we are running out of time. There are already
>> less than two weeks until the currently planned feature freeze, before
>> which the vote must be finished and the implementation merged. For such a
>> major feature, I don't like the idea of rushing the vote to such a
>> degree.
>>
>> As such, I think that this feature can only go into 7.3 if the release
>> schedule is adjusted. Extending the schedule by another 2-week alpha
>> cycle
>> would be sufficient to land this proposal in PHP 7.3. Otherwise it will
>> just have to wait a few years for the next applicable release (based on
>> recent discussions, it's not entirely clear whether that would be PHP 7.4
>> or 8.0).
>
> Sounds like the RMs for 7.3 need to weigh in on this.
> For me I think it's worthwhile delaying two weeks, +1.

Is there any precendent for postponing feature freeze during the (late)
alpha stage?

-- 
Christoph M. Becker