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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Typed Properties
From: bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=c3=b6rn_Larsson?=)

Den 2018-07-05 kl. 12:17, skrev Nikita Popov:

> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Björn Larsson <bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Den 2018-06-21 kl. 20:41, skrev Sara Golemon:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Dan Ackroyd <danack@basereality.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 21 June 2018 at 17:49, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it's better not
>>>>> to feel pressured by the deadline for 7.3
>>>>>
>>>> The deadline isn't a deadline - it's just the current consensus for
>>>> when we'd like to see 7.3 released.
>>>>
>>>> If people thought this RFC needed more time but would make PHP 7.3 a
>>>> lot better, would there be any harm in moving the 7.3 release back a
>>>> few weeks?
>>>>
>>>> Sure.  I would *far* prefer that over jamming this in without any
>>> change in the GA date.  We have to be careful about exactly when we
>>> push it to.  The current GA date wasn't chosen arbitrarily, but with
>>> concern regarding the proximity to the holiday season.
>>>
>>> -Sara
>>>
>>> Hi,
>> Any chance getting this into 7.3? I think it would be a
>> great addition. According to Marco Pivettas mail from
>> 26/6 it works flawlessly.
>>
>> Givven the current discussion about 8.0 it feels a bit
>> way off having this to wait for this feature until 2020.
>>
> We have recently finished the last major change to the implementation
> (switching to https://wiki.php.net/rfc/typed_properties_v2#
> references_without_intrinsic_type -- the RFC still needs to be updated for
> this change). However, there is still quite a bit of refactoring and polish
> to be done. Unfortunately, we are running out of time. There are already
> less than two weeks until the currently planned feature freeze, before
> which the vote must be finished and the implementation merged. For such a
> major feature, I don't like the idea of rushing the vote to such a degree.
>
> As such, I think that this feature can only go into 7.3 if the release
> schedule is adjusted. Extending the schedule by another 2-week alpha cycle
> would be sufficient to land this proposal in PHP 7.3. Otherwise it will
> just have to wait a few years for the next applicable release (based on
> recent discussions, it's not entirely clear whether that would be PHP 7.4
> or 8.0).
>
> Regards,
> Nikita
>
Sounds like the RMs for 7.3 need to weigh in on this.
For me I think it's worthwhile delaying two weeks, +1.

I also think that now we have an implementation that
works. For 8.0 the changes are not known, so delaying
could imply that implementation needs to be reworked,
i.e. a bit of double work.

r//Björn Larsson