Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102580 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1607 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2018 17:00:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Jul 2018 17:00:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.17.22 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.17.22] ([212.227.17.22:45273] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 21/75-55607-03DFC3B5 for ; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 13:00:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.102] ([79.222.41.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LwrS8-1gBtJs3yjw-016ND6; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:00:29 +0200 To: Zeev Suraski , Nikita Popov Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , Internals References: <4b90f1d7-62ce-337c-42d7-d77743a979df@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15c97824-5f26-ce41-e530-bec77814e4f5@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 19:00:28 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wdje2e9rZ5bMrhlxTUU3R/MuatB91dBMHV6ZOfTtpp2VG6PslKY TK778cJ2q+1UKY/L6IjF4YLcKaDjwlfNHXW9MkWPzxtY7ShUyvGWyCn0W2i+eT5mR7Yh4rW Y61tOGuqAI0yaBitx98mbc5tgkWpNd8wXsDFKWEGP/bXl7HULrdgDQDWiOSjq8t6MPkbkcS thnIjEPOmQNHbbjnIoaZg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:xKOI7p5yHik=:GgvSjpfn+6YjV6rOrqophv U7yTcIMsOmAMF6RgUfK6sGWBxeUmSkVU4pzVGuo5h01NAmbP4KDBngeC6dpvvZnSN1LIM5X25 MNkkZpIHkl+b5sJctslQRGdAf0FdSXhrcjkf149l87wft2lj3CTiIdzK7UQzvm+/K+9DXiWi+ WXr9jOF7/nJZZ5kO/2mbwMSf5Vnuczt3eIlw931Ktry7SITEWWR50bmKvy82qGyTif/6lcVpd Zc5H9BvpE/zAx+je4Bp8Xt6eKdxutBGA8HI0IXJCLqKAsZ6zSO/T1RYAx5CCaXtN5Di/o3aJH oG6pxG0bxYr4NxUhwNkbyXUhtNwbVoBezx2q3yO8gzPggjostfMM4wPLRC5SVlIynhiUFZS6/ mHFbAFX8y2ssZZASti8aSmJWEEAnUTSVovHXlXEeEK8kpgV3u6uEaxpEirx0TvrQYLtbXZqys uK8+nouZH1ki5LgcHicxN2f5MEA1eG+FgVtoj91oulSPKMXWA8Mlq+7g+NSpyJDwFmqkNF92s icsoEoAvdfWUT+U81RZW5fiho13YFrogtC8w2BUzJ2lnYCzxv9D5iSgRgz63iAx2kTm8/VMr4 gdzn//mUzCEbtwxtdgvc5lL4GNHDBkd3OhrC1pZJJfuB1cP6m4fk2RpUUmIefm5ESw+1mbcph FI/h/us5XindYXzQ7ipV/hQVv4v8ix49/p7Hq+ICN77ZVxbl59rP0Sct1WlSbV0YrAgxDJjt2 XjspAg8wT5lwwjsw8YWKZbihxrPawUJn5YlQ7hxnLB2POBr34McO9cFeemMr69Kf1wc8EfLpa q9AijwG Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate and remove case-insensitive constants From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 04.07.2018 at 17:02, Zeev Suraski wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 5:12 PM Nikita Popov wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:03 AM, Stanislav Malyshev >> wrote: >> >> Are there any other opinions on this topic or the RFC in general? I'm a bit >> surprised that there are so little comments after the somewhat explosive >> discussion last time around. > > Personally I think that the grounds for deprecating this particular feature > isn't very strong. Yes, we'd probably not do it this way if we were > starting from scratch, but is it that bad for us to make the migration to > PHP 8 a bit more difficult? I'm not sure. So I'm probably -1 on it, but > at the same time I don't think it's bad enough to warrant active > 'campaigning' against this RFC :) In my humble opinion, the listed motivations[1] are more than sufficient to get rid of this supposedly rarely used feature. [1] -- Christoph M. Becker