Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102466 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28943 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2018 20:01:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jun 2018 20:01:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.47 mail-it0-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.47] ([209.85.214.47:40494] helo=mail-it0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1E/F3-01794-79B923B5 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 16:01:27 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 188-v6so4060250ita.5 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 13:01:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4zbIfKekyTpuvEWfVP23e/KBIeOaPZ2npzNVfOvyqKo=; b=XsrkT+FFW3XpMDh+1kw0ATtZ7f7FNfRZbcGmUEjXCHeS6MRynFuEZmdP10tROD+ZM2 /HiB/13icuAbdLEoxTYGf6m5IhRbUcST9PGaM+/YZPAm4nRUzv6KqeR8qTPhfrTnl5FL lhWQi8PFj/HOoAops8QvWdaZdfLXdYlJ2eCOZgb6LXDywH2dR7Wdc47QdC46OkxgSxhP aZ8q1ks5viI1MbG4oDL2h0iN+85xu8DtXLenE8fYoQNZEhjtWf/2ighjoKXFUbIir2Gi oGAIu8eEKu1gelGPtUr5irQC2CLkc7L3LeYfVm+0b8GR7irtC5YSUVMXYGC4ovEkWjqt M7MA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4zbIfKekyTpuvEWfVP23e/KBIeOaPZ2npzNVfOvyqKo=; b=Xohh9io9JUHEipPLtisXdsFwrYGCJqcTSCY1imbEfGcXWJ3WzLPj576sIt/sKDhwKM 6lGhq8oMXfLtAqajyHmuvMRTuLsGFVwuqjEOPaDn85QrgXLxd0owdWqV0b6PXm2UlOA2 cc/yjH9egtYzOzL00kfuDrBRulHtMBLBrhv5ms196NvcED2ZJgG4qrasu06sMZVU2KMW b8uRvss2AwJJezRMGViVb3WRqWRwYXeKwt+yB2pav9k/HT8ymw9KCVfWApMOOgLRnY3N QC0i2QWMc67nwlh9ou3UPpHH8JnnO3ExJOcN9C20SBfqPHYOvFeR04svRk31rGDE1Y04 PH9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3lDH39xtX7WWom9FTDSlPXdQKRaJIcfMgtcmfQxjO4WUQ2CNDW aLe6BSEV+1wXeYhD7dfIVWNoEE1sYpg0YlKIh+JcTkWm X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpfKgYaFtUrXnG+jS10GxCCVK+4fGWD7P2JtevtXeFf11f4MWnXHXjxK+/IUZUTOXDu2t31Z0VJumxoq4J84qDk= X-Received: by 2002:a24:9ed5:: with SMTP id p204-v6mr2669681itd.87.1530043284788; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 13:01:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a6b:fe16:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 13:01:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 22:01:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen Cc: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007b1cfa056f90f6bc" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 7.3 From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --0000000000007b1cfa056f90f6bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:51 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > Den tir. 26. jun. 2018 kl. 20.16 skrev Nikita Popov >: > > Feel free to add this one to the RFC, if you know what the background > for the deprecation is. Given that the manual already marks it as > deprecated for so long, this seems like a mere technicality. > > I added the pdo_odbc.db2_instance_name to the RFC including 2 options > which is up to you to decide for with the relevant patches included. > Thanks for adding it. Unless there is a particular reason to rush here, I'd suggest to follow the usual process and formally deprecate the option prior to removal. As a clarification, what is the alternative to using this ini setting? I guess you can just explicit set the DB2INSTANCE env var, but that probably has the same issues. Is there a "correct" way to do this? (Sorry if it's obvious, I'm not familiar with ODBC.) > > Given the recent discussions about having a PHP 7.4 release for > additional deprecations, I'm going to punt on the rest. While they may be > no-brainers to you and I, a lot of those are actually quite controversial > (e.g. there was an RFC to deprecate b' in 7.2 and it was declined -- go > figure!) > > > > I'd suggest that you already open up the next deprecation RFC, to make > sure these are not forgotten. Some of them should probably get separate > proposals altogether (especially the var interpolation syntax). > > > > Nikita > > I agree that a lot of them are controversial, and perhaps its a good > idea to start flesh them out for our users and fellow contributors > already now. I began a draft based on your 7.3 RFC for 7.4[1]. Ps I > took the liberty of adding your name as the RFC author. > > [1] https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_7_4 > Thanks! Nikita --0000000000007b1cfa056f90f6bc--