Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102426 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3314 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2018 14:58:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jun 2018 14:58:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ralph@ralphschindler.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ralph@ralphschindler.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain ralphschindler.com from 209.85.161.169 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ralph@ralphschindler.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.169 mail-yw0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.169] ([209.85.161.169:33924] helo=mail-yw0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E4/38-50433-403013B5 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:58:12 -0400 Received: by mail-yw0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n187-v6so1407024ywd.1 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 07:58:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ralphschindler-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vH2k0+KZRcJElRSHLO5nlJ5oaN6KeKXf8xmD23HJwQg=; b=CHc/NnMNeSd549f5w3Rcb1pg3yN3ceg+i+AQ8F+qsglnVC4SgXF8nauNdDJXTiakcT Hx8dHr829WZh313kB0jaQfOeI5OHn25L86twJT0KePe8Tpe8oxbM55L6xnQvo4LWlgKe VDhIIjtr+oQcbz2+GwiXa7tivOTJha7iH5b/b9kyNLnC329z7o0rv+Hs7yQn2EGPnzrH tngnLyoz2G/8yq+bPBRjwrzgwWxk6582/6xrxiI/Q92+sikwliJXMsqZrPwmqN2sfLjo QtOZE6AcCy4Tctm3bBzVXaVtuWQ2IdkVPmfTCfFx4YJmrZXdkgR0XZcvYR1W8A5DmgC1 F6Ew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vH2k0+KZRcJElRSHLO5nlJ5oaN6KeKXf8xmD23HJwQg=; b=hdatN5Z7UwSVM6ScTDnGGMggQRuZ1J2La/G9SZwmdRMt0CcPuqoIWeEsOS3Iz8wmPP pBJe5ybQ3uqVaxilOYBSYIsbm4wLZ/07OhF/ngmgnbKJR++l/dF7D60FEhS1C9+Tf0yH sbRuM35+eCBorRKdrwb70+LnguKdALnMNl7z5XuwnOJFKzz7zr7dKccsknp9CRBDCzl2 C3IYMm0MPoG8Kc77qvWEo94yBJopC2FiUlpFdKqaN2P1ay86ph7FucmlyjmC+mQvSu4V QGQvKys96dffyQhrRCQmTLZ9Gb4um+tVFoH8rZ4U4c7OO3ir1lq721BHpOESW2mufm9u ptHA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2yhoGQjDequwg2O3a3xR7SBG4A9xGjY91ymjW0SdXCoUcHdCHx d5wt9Q3UB5S6GCiTsIOqQ4fz5mCKSV4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKL5X8UCltt0XhhYRze5dl8D45yATL3y39cDmDfUQ6NEWpeJM5R+BwM1CtLyK4jVjoCnONXt4A== X-Received: by 2002:a81:2c54:: with SMTP id s81-v6mr5776246yws.63.1529938689252; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 07:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ralphs-MacBook-Pro.local (ip68-227-69-11.no.no.cox.net. [68.227.69.11]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s67-v6sm1579979ywe.74.2018.06.25.07.58.08 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Jun 2018 07:58:08 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <1529936020.4441.10.camel@schlueters.de> Message-ID: <810529e6-f873-fbe5-c182-4de827fe46a0@ralphschindler.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:58:07 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1529936020.4441.10.camel@schlueters.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 2^3 From: ralph@ralphschindler.com (Ralph Schindler) On 6/25/18 9:13 AM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > On Mo, 2018-06-25 at 12:30 +0000, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> 3. Foreign Function Interface support. > > Related to this on a non-PHP-code and strategic matter I would like to > rethink PECL. Currently maintenance and installing extensions using it > is a pita. This should be doable in a nicer way. Is it worthwhile to also consider some form of safe runtime registration of extensions (or extension-like whatever that looks like in a JIT model).. A la dl()? I realize in today's age of containerized projects (1 php install per project, everything owned by root per-se) makes PHP with esoteric extensions much easier, it still would be nice if I could composer install a specific version of an extension; like xdebug in a require-dev, or require one of the new kafka extensions at the project level. -ralph