Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:102298 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42904 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2018 17:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jun 2018 17:05:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cmbecker69@gmx.de; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cmbecker69@gmx.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cmbecker69@gmx.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.15.19 mout.gmx.net Received: from [212.227.15.19] ([212.227.15.19:52515] helo=mout.gmx.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FE/16-29356-276E72B5 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:05:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.114] ([79.222.35.93]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LvVUR-1gBtIe1trv-010fQO; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:05:47 +0200 To: Larry Garfield , internals@lists.php.net References: <75db877c-ef0b-7d3b-48a8-9879d90352b0@web.de> <76e4744f-6722-ee49-0325-e4433236f1b1@web.de> <73ac8914-8c9f-e74b-a4f5-f6e39cd96f8f@gmx.de> <3242366.BL9MUqXe46@vulcan> Message-ID: <835c7081-f5c1-2d38-72da-80b833a5ff12@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:05:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3242366.BL9MUqXe46@vulcan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:us2f4IvrqBEJ0XSAyfIAP6juaGNU/7HdBKRPueWKKyESkUV0cb9 y4AVLFeFW6j2cnMFn65Y6k7ER44+gsx43zS3Sfmbo/nUuU0hvJH4rGDjq4nr9o4KwPaNNeh ivv/Ni8rTGsPRfhbN8kOALyPZ5JNZoFQN5yGMClj+t369hf5+Ehc835F3IgmBkdCNB52lXH MBkZBIP6S4diMrt+HjQ1A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:m1F3zlqbdwg=:p+VQZx5RdU2N8Uoova9wq/ cw4shwUBG4JOuzJFZrqWRsuk9WNyPYAaJMncPtFkMfb8RQAkE5ooG+BNH71rL+RCwu1/Rcbvw E3xf40jRJ64RFU4YJgLKDfcgweHSzBeP/x3dZeBAW5HCl6E+4Q1tt8SuN4ldt0DHSmrzVmb3q xZgsPFWsfTz3dpjqwM0pb/EBXIrxzpDzdPiTmSixymJ8lqlah88eAxosB7cjhg5kKZ+diyIWm X7ooCLb1X3bVq3q4DH1P+maQots0ybCtoe1WbV9MtamsNSGhPSO65mSDXvED8IPHM3zWqYJYt d43lzh+3D14Xx9VvHuaFfElqPFg76ukHhNMACb23Dg4hfyQfzpma6IFl7RA11CeOLrUjTKO6d /oIDZN6lgulvmSM/TCOu5X7QNcASUu4yPzUBUJvbvVX7f4jvP560mDdrexsCRi2mVrbLBli7b FQhgJGpl3Fofu8HejOFZdAA6f9loHOeSrhkL95GQDMczoT34QrLBo19d9GoSpeOQVGRBbNuk0 3Li5K95LJAelnPoFVxjagwCovkm/KBQoclp457xW8l0vciIknTTga0O4gbeBYhZruVDE7y2wP lgQYaHQ0kaazDOtoA8M1uelT4c3pKmSyEC7t9FIrgUw2Y9WBFtbRojKDT1Dz9x4GiRlQfoeau tpo0u3pNfqHso9ibKoueos/pTayNHQeqdlq/rXQxW5o/tYAvvVb4jWxP1V6jhH28sJDwXGgMh W2/1uAV3tuCJgpG/ri+PxQncd0CiGuexCDSi6q04hYHwfONasGenjWGNmahk5nG80hwqd+VZG xkyaBSE Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Under Discussion] Add functions array_key_first()and array_key_last() From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 18.06.2018 at 17:32, Larry Garfield wrote: > Can we please never return false for error/not-found, ever, period, forever > more? It's a fundamentally broken idiom that needs to die. “But wait!” some cry. “What about consistency with existing functions?” -- Christoph M. Becker