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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:28:18 +0200
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To: "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] orphan extensions cleanup
From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov)

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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Christoph M. Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de>
wrote:

> On 14.06.2018 at 00:47, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
>
> >> That said, in my opinion it is too late for 7.3 to move a bundled
> >> extension to PECL, except perhaps for unresolved or even unresolvable
> >> security reasons.  ext/wddx comes to mind, and maybe there are others.
> >
> > I'd be happy to move wddx if nobody steps up to maintain it. It has ton=
s
> > of security issues lately (not even sure all are fixed) and it hard to
> > make heads or tails in it without really deep dive, for which I don't
> > think I have time, and nobody else seems to. And since it's a kinda
> > obscure format which in 99% of cases can be replaced by json I suspect.=
..
>
> *Deprecation* of ext/wddx is part of the =E2=80=9CDeprecations for PHP 7.=
3=E2=80=9D
> RFC[1] draft.  Are you planning to pursue this RFC, Nikita?
>

Thanks for the reminder, I do plan to pick this up. I'll try to submit this
RFC as soon as possible.


> Anyhow, I think moving ext/wddx to PECL for PHP 7.3 might be preferable
> to a deprecation phase, given that we had discussed this almost a year
> before[2], and already had an RFC which would only have deprecated the
> object deserialization[3] withdrawn, but had not actually made any
> progress.
>

I think our general procedure is to always deprecate prior to moving to
PECL, to ensure that the PECL use also throws deprecation warnings (it is
an unmaintained extension at that point after all).

I'd personally be fine with deprecate+move in 7.3 though, for all the
reasons we discussed last time.

Nikita

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