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[24.4.176.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f11-v6sm938042pgq.18.2018.06.12.13.09.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Jun 2018 13:09:35 -0700 (PDT) To: "Christoph M. 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Since > it is rather late for actually moving several extensions to PECL for > PHP 7.3, and since this would be an ongoing process anyway, I suggest > to I'm not sure it's too late for 7.3. If we see that the extension is unmaintained, we could move it out for 7.3 I think. And special thanks for re-raising this topic, which I initiated and then forgot to properly follow up :) > turn the RFC into a general RFC regarding “Process and Policy” – > basically, to decide on clear rules regarding maintainership of > extensions and moving of orphaned extensions to PECL. Individual > extensions could than be handled without the need for much > discussion and be resolved with a simple RFC/voting (or maybe even > without). Yes, I think having some rules on maintainership would be nice, right now I haven't even considered extensions which have maintainers listed but no longer active, etc. - though I suspect those exist too. But we should start with ones we think are orphans now. I'll update the RFC and put it for vote soon, I think, and then see how we can continue. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com