Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101927 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 44364 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2018 19:01:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Feb 2018 19:01:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.49 mail-it0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.49] ([209.85.214.49:37611] helo=mail-it0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DC/A5-19911-328039A5 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:01:56 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f49.google.com with SMTP id k79so5660753ita.2 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:01:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=X4SBDSsiNrOvRJ4YJmmwLpUZegFWWeYAvlrCBZjhbgQ=; b=DlhX+qBbGmLHL82n2ItLAbd2Q6ZUGyerEEhG9DWumlyiwrQk8EVoL1/VJMuV/WEaFm QlnJhn2IyLJEjsrmHVPPBf2U0/QNdePfnzdD9V6BvSVq+vrS7MVAetctAmp8GaB4DtJa MZ5HaZehPFAoFDhnKM/pm41+bGSj9tFa0xyVlg4/i8pkZ5A8vt7Hup+muK+HQlEX5EVX E4NQSM5eLNQC12Et9oLjo1zvXd62z3wAPBsQlINf5Xy8t8pM+I7cvC7+PJD9SwLJmPRp iw93Hsy0GP4XUAx2vJvZmuzlAhh/qKcPX9a70OtCgt6Bqfh49hOuEqo7sMLvauIOcBU0 CnhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=X4SBDSsiNrOvRJ4YJmmwLpUZegFWWeYAvlrCBZjhbgQ=; b=t6NhFYKMNau6O/1JLf+el3z6MfWeSkZx1hbkxRnYWh43Ulte5p/gFPzs9ctrMC7v8E QqJIiKaYdZRVIVarqblXArEbZLi2b2oxjaoSGeQM7+pKdwDLOidckhgrrtH1x0+8jIke +xhyn3QD98pWYjDOcZ7QqZHZFnl+Jxz/oDay26rv0O3NYDR8GxXEm1H3KlcwoH404aZf PmEushPIBbUrubTg/OUDxwp4nptF7kgC/OmmZNKDvMBWlB2AdF0yGxeCkhgl3nJjI7gc 7QUjdu9LXn4y3Gh+uKwXH+rVixNEaMz+reSdL8EtV7H0WI6RzSvSZuE0Nf+9fyr4U1w8 x0zg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDJgtLzQbZtwOasFLE4GhEPYo0tN6ot7Z+6dH8tc9XBv0f0n+vW PfBfR3QuRQFxpc2OcV7foyg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELulQBnzU68vhml2m1nMwPBlKAvk5mazprlbvZYtBkRMMzbyEqjv72PjyHJsR5X2M2tJpSAwOQ== X-Received: by 10.36.40.72 with SMTP id h69mr8876359ith.102.1519585312771; Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.85] (107-223-28-39.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net. [107.223.28.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x72sm4091995ite.26.2018.02.25.11.01.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 25 Feb 2018 11:01:51 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 13:01:49 -0600 Cc: Dan Ackroyd , PHP Internals List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: To: =?utf-8?Q?Silvio_Mariji=C4=87?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Immutability From: pmjones88@gmail.com (Paul Jones) > On Feb 25, 2018, at 12:59, Silvio Mariji=C4=87 = wrote: >=20 > Here is link to tweet = https://twitter.com/SilvioMarijic/status/965564630071300096 After having read that, I think "immutable" is still perfectly = reasonable. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones@pmjones.io http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php