Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101865 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47632 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2018 23:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Feb 2018 23:18:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.177 mail-ot0-f177.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.177] ([74.125.82.177:45474] helo=mail-ot0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 68/DE-26725-252738A5 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 18:18:43 -0500 Received: by mail-ot0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 73so18805701oti.12 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:18:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=27flkQuFegrWgrreLeyJ5NxjVnDZAAac56S35FG0+Tw=; b=lTPXzvWED+g9IL/N0OYEO9K2GsGA1EajnNjzMe4dO8Ib8wNhweApFgxbhr05md6Hfi IBDWR9bQ/MR4HjZsjlgJ2ggJE7p0BIrFAYDyEeUTwDiqsfFEB0n3slP7ks26LuCGBpgC Tfhve4fhBOka1tdGJa+BN0vfwhIDJ52VO85VNku609CJQaXbk52rGo1kusWIDFAua1Le snuogJxQoiLqLtyzhnuQKK9rKtgPDn+rDs15agrbXANLqDEacdt3XUqwMiKnHW4aTLLt qKySagqP9D+Un13iZo3F/LZ2XzzpxHTZQoIEMjG/bdCwrjIx77XIIu1LJ/Zwm/OBqLAI klEw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=27flkQuFegrWgrreLeyJ5NxjVnDZAAac56S35FG0+Tw=; b=PJKWq4J9wcNCDty/wh4ndD+U6X8w0mWaJHWb2R1lqHhDudXgDRZKS0U2V2GWgyCP5W a9bNrDI9NV7Ksp6vvT52nuc6w6sDyS71mtaRrIT4kNMGB1VkKu74q4u1vQYo+n9xkcHz 6Eop/TTEg8lA1tsofLSlFu6I2R94UVfIIs0WA4zRzS+p5qaceBtUDdYqGjA9vr30Oo9u FLSuYF8gPrVkYRZzew/pTPinLSagxe5f3xELASbuC/O+7Nj6BA0UPg0D7wApLOznJOL1 9L1Kdb2nRD5bvru81LGjtPh9y99KdMqSG4e+TRyheys181VUW0qOI94xMbYnadZwLmaw g2Wg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPBJxKrkFdANnhp6DY1CzpARz6nI+iv1sA1cFeDqGLIIAaKClJEq DZpzHgPHLQ5VGFMD0TXaeT24Mx4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226UMbpuyLybk9DsaZ6VbU5myMV6R3rAYS44l5G/fXeeDWq6YF3MgAfy8Jqf030mpieDrVvqTQ== X-Received: by 10.157.113.205 with SMTP id z13mr2307549otj.71.1518563918842; Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Pro-2016.local ([12.229.62.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w62sm6072874oig.2.2018.02.13.15.18.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:18:38 -0800 (PST) To: "Christoph M. Becker" , Wes , Sara Golemon Cc: PHP Internals References: <7a9f65eb-e54c-abbe-d661-f5e5420f6528@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4f282446-8860-31a7-9b03-88e37309b219@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:18:32 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/58.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7a9f65eb-e54c-abbe-d661-f5e5420f6528@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Deprecate the backtick operator From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Actually, for me the only valid argument to deprecate the backtick > operator is "because it is a shady way to execute a rare and dangerous > operation". I, personally, would make that the main reason for the > deprecation proposal, and would move the other arguments to the "future > scope" section. I don't think it is "shady" - it's a well-known syntax, and while shell execution can indeed be dangerous in some scenarios, it is commonly used in cli applications, and is not that rare there. I don't see a point in deprecating it - it doesn't improve anything that I can see, only makes extra work for people that are using it. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com