Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101838 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29345 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2018 11:44:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Feb 2018 11:44:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=narf@devilix.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=narf@devilix.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain devilix.net designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: narf@devilix.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.41 mail-wm0-f41.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.41] ([74.125.82.41:34466] helo=mail-wm0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B2/20-26725-FFD718A5 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 06:44:01 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j21so8403493wmh.1 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:43:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=devilix.net; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=miCiqcwlHB70YykpRiYdaJHIx+HEcltSHcjTcpan2g0=; b=FgR+SQjpsBrzNLgHaqk+fyAVVYen9jj/xexq5i72mVflC4aUcRn/tp6O2JMJChyCTm KyPxPFdxEdu0cV0uz6sq/BlfHtnfVNolj1oSJHSHg34rOdwlJqB08HPT9S6YakofeIDs UOqvn1mtGFhG1lN3VJEjfTYunwlkkBi6FVJlE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=miCiqcwlHB70YykpRiYdaJHIx+HEcltSHcjTcpan2g0=; b=pRhtHO4ZVaSSjb4ObNh2W8Pj5ksOlmv9kBt+ctoo9uJDTE8naMMoWNV6HNMKzzkyc2 OFJNIUPDxtOCgYZb8PxwKYqmq7FC+6BoQk+nWl7Z6sr/kWYd1TMG1W/J7EScXtOvegep i/ikplASgTcrEyoyqMo0adayfOfG7gNUagv+cZ03efKKwK5SvOXlBUBsT/Q59k961mgp Wi7nL8uxOvzfy/LzY9JNHUUW7JEqUbuWtmKRhupa1eo5dqpoFH0UhAZyRlcbB8BWJpqg sr8OR1ZkPoAiB4XBnWTnFy0KnMjqBZEF5VEAdznn96iDRmnSE5n7XdNM+o2AKdtfxQfa qk/A== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPB+XtFOw6nW3xjp65Kg4lVOn/M5o2HIEHDmI04aIBlOchr3GArf ZCoqYmmxCtWpETmeUEcqAcu3RFdJtk5Z+QPrzRR80g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226EQVJRrwxRvRXZ4wOa7ZNM4Q56pen38uyz6nHWzTnn//3ZrgBl8jWebySP8SbymlpiKmQ3Y7rvLHU9iOKLuUo= X-Received: by 10.28.174.198 with SMTP id x189mr3189042wme.118.1518435836868; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:43:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.131.161 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:43:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:43:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: Wes Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Deprecate the backtick operator From: narf@devilix.net (Andrey Andreev) Hi, I agree with the criticism towards the RFC contents raised so far. It's obviously put together with as little effort as possible, and the cheeky version number doesn't help either ... Treating the RFC process as a joke doesn't get you support. But that being said, I do support the proposal. I understand people opposed to removing features for no reason, but nobody needs this to be an operator, it's not a widely-used one, and we all know if it was proposed for addition today it would have 0 chance of acceptance. Also, I would go for E_DEPRECATED now + removal in 8.0 without further future scope. IMO, it should be common sense to get rid of obsolete features, and therefore the token doesn't need to be repurposed for this to be a good idea. Cheers, Andrey.