Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101825 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78108 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2018 20:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Feb 2018 20:17:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=netmo.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=netmo.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: netmo.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.169 mail-qt0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.169] ([209.85.216.169:36685] helo=mail-qt0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BA/55-18020-5C4A08A5 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 15:17:09 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-f169.google.com with SMTP id q18so9990998qtl.3 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:17:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5BJotSghnaIjFn4lXc9OHl9DmbOKeBEDlF9QUl74GCw=; b=UmMrAWbNmVyZN267If7ibym9VoZFX6YIePvsqvmtKsWOtrmAyCv0rOiFo9E2OH2aO5 Xks2Z7mw3VrVV9YJdyJvblLwi+IWxU54cKxgVo4Nr1jh3Dh4r7Yt6/WTU1owjPQRVu9+ RgT4UQcIwl3htWeBJv2Rkdow//mu10cNiLw5c/HC0PLJrr/A6ZUHTz5VP3yuHiSqoT+A SfOdHQqDQWg0YjByBYUMwqjw3Jp94QdR9xfuP4+O3MwEKieEkslDWbWtnQ/aUVdgilOS DyxyCde2W/g4MO8wXrb6jhKJdoZCxNyE61Pv3Hk+KoYtMUuTDsdHvdPuNTGvG2zgEym4 eOEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5BJotSghnaIjFn4lXc9OHl9DmbOKeBEDlF9QUl74GCw=; b=fTiettdP8FmanQvKxXfPxmVuz9c095ZuFO5FpriYnx4tlUSwY4BNYXpGJSND27ioET C/Xnnw+XB9Zuek9ygGzlApx1L35m1BjjXJG9Usi4e+3P5MPBKHk4Si5p+vAJ7GZM5VyD H9ILS+5rlVFilF9rIFB6MHtjssJUELCl+rSxlDRnninFQ2x2OzVpxkyRw2CZ3AtPirF2 47lZxgFffcmG4HtFEU7nD5jg8S+V+YF32kpJ2eT0+xctYbUR2GXBBT6mmS1C09esfa/z rW7RQHYGo0j3y2WN3nD612NIhKlE9GUPAsYmFSmDHOOAYIBl9HfvMF0hZjG1dTjYuSAk XqXw== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPCoEIO6uFW3ook4G9cQ2gBvboAYlp/WKzuKHQxl2BGIL5YlHe7m o+jYGym9XVY9LCUeGOYanjDYo3XmQNZWV16BZro= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2254+vlM/euDSJ64HZZy2zyYHD9BdUVuW7KWxrGy2OIYZgbRihX32sjtBr8D4DUOhHZLmroSVf9hLXrxNcimQyg= X-Received: by 10.200.41.8 with SMTP id y8mr14963715qty.322.1518380226978; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:17:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.53.239 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:17:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2680937a-3214-edb4-8366-73fc35168233@gmail.com> References: <2680937a-3214-edb4-8366-73fc35168233@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:17:06 +0100 Message-ID: To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11408d301028410564f57273" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Deprecate the backtick operator From: netmo.php@gmail.com (Wes) --001a11408d301028410564f57273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Stas thanks for the feedback. I've added more info for more clarity. It's absolutely impossible to treat notices as errors in PHP, so I assume everybody thinks the same. If someone converts notices to ErrorExceptions or something, it's their fault. A notice in tests is exactly what a deprecation is supposed to do, force people to update their code. Regarding the notice level, it's a bit confusing picking one. E_DEPRECATED, E_STRICT, E_NOTICE... I'm not sure what it should be. --001a11408d301028410564f57273--