Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101824 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76302 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2018 20:00:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Feb 2018 20:00:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.48 mail-pl0-f48.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.48] ([209.85.160.48:38452] helo=mail-pl0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 75/05-18020-BC0A08A5 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 15:00:11 -0500 Received: by mail-pl0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 13so4026902plb.5 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:00:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cXDQkcmf9ufrlddOrdN9uXtK3aUnwwgVPMRpY16ZbHM=; b=pFKCF382na5Gid8EpxuJwgMhq4vLU++bogkSIihKlvH+2pqKRk0MkTim9xdqic9/8Z 2lX9sWT1M0yeBJ10iQ2Gtdn8DarwFHvLkD6xlRic821xHTAY8t3W8GgjEDx/soTEudwY cDg/KwPykG5B5H+6UJMxO1pssjAqY16o7mwIlXWirLKBI0lOn8bLzNiDQ9DMK7oEtb/R rfx7gECJgB8Fk7gHSjT/V75Zb5ASnZKbjHV6yLuoNtC4NhIfKYzVuXblkvVMjVkYl6ET F0gXkpJij74JIdhWEunc/ETKp25vH5ya7CuFgjycR9x+2VbonyTD2kBPX+be0tyXSdDf OWdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cXDQkcmf9ufrlddOrdN9uXtK3aUnwwgVPMRpY16ZbHM=; b=FKooYEyGVP1tZJ3ZPSwD9yxTTvcENSvTOc/MvECSbXFDBDVh9ioDayiMf+/4RtXy0v FtugehY7YFf29fYnGfc+kPt7xHDnYEeBBDbgq1J79IKQ4pQs/MeoE3rvibvAe/23gNeh qQUyPBQFQSOA2Bc9w87PBzZ3beGPiKmBSKwfDzlvhSjAmerbK3gOi5uHm6rRbkiRSeSG 3hG3POMPWtyBqAK230M0pZewfd5inMYTL+5yYF1OQmplLJVQUnz1L6g0bU/dhBNCtzbX IqP2YC0GT30IcpMxsneE291EM+PLZ8FSa1nsvO+WO5QlkIJ4ikYL/90qTTReHc6hGZBH 72Hg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDoVHG1m12sp0g1oUXy5lypFD5Ya71eGi6KR22egMtNopu0gPIM G+SvhX/C+X1jNTW9Cx3ZB8aVvOs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226T82eqqSVHcgs+5bFHq0Y1DWT6waIHfee8QTIHxPo/LsIKVr/OMot9QexmPdvbkgdneYRXeQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:8e83:: with SMTP id bg3-v6mr8906558plb.246.1518379207273; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Pro-2016.lan (c-73-71-144-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [73.71.144.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d2sm30686701pfl.135.2018.02.11.12.00.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) To: Wes , PHP Internals References: Message-ID: <2680937a-3214-edb4-8366-73fc35168233@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:00:05 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/58.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Deprecate the backtick operator From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Hello PHPeople, I present to you... the shortest RFC ever. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecate-backtick-operator > > Let me know what you think! I think we need a bit more explanation that that. Why would we want to use backticks for Unicode strings? Why we need to deprecate existing functionality for that - aren't there other alternatives that do not require it? Also, it does not spell out what you mean by "deprecate" - would it be just a line in documentation? An warning/error message? Something else? "Backward Incompatible Changes" seems to be incorrect - if you plan to remove backticks or change its meaning at some stage, it certainly will impact scripts that use it. Even if it's just an error message, it can fail tests and cause other incompatible behavior. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com