Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101797 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81814 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2018 03:53:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Feb 2018 03:53:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.83.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.83.48 mail-pg0-f48.google.com Received: from [74.125.83.48] ([74.125.83.48:34205] helo=mail-pg0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7F/EA-49805-9387A7A5 for ; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 22:53:29 -0500 Received: by mail-pg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id s73so2020294pgc.1 for ; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:53:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EX8S/Gq+y9E0tPXrPwEzIacHuPC8TgZ8798AdxrWdz0=; b=CljgFAhvTIIcdYoCrIdJxbi19eokyjnI5XcRLS7cLePHISjAWWlgSg9YX/cpV7UZqb a784nucPlXWDXW5UvaBPWCZu2WGFk2WQTLr3Py1OLDl1ie/Nszsk48Fc/iR4r166qPz9 KPrIn75wEg2kLTMSfbyWxE3bzOBlpSkKq70/Q6fU74FV0sWtBfzc9xYIplcvap5+TEaa qVQydQxYxVjshXAAfvQAF2gF1w1RU6DtDGl4l43q+eUg7TKC2hWiCP6qu47b+8VIxkt+ HunZiCc/7gE05DlZStM41D2K4AmmguBEYEa2i2BOxCoS2ortm3WzYG/DC+RLdH/1S37S dkkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EX8S/Gq+y9E0tPXrPwEzIacHuPC8TgZ8798AdxrWdz0=; b=T7HmbApy5LPOHMXjeA0laROlmig3j8CkCJAMQY9wBJV91BFKjgRyMcchu7PRwgLiYU M78hFBpMd4nS4pvUIkyuspVapkBW2rfdBri62fVWJSTF7w31TvsoBAc7F2p/sTsWkCuf +bEL8U1Ma6MI1FSouBh3o6hVLlyGTlZX5kIJo/N9st/JxpejbzqOaTequtbwejhol1al QfAs7ctr9qhbbA2g8tnaqWOqIhCvZ0FLo7gzcNgTxBOkIi38SwvhpCVPnSCBf9NH/mtC yZVjKNaMUt1R/NMqsl6BY67dHmBrA/LtY4PydbKYoCqxajxZm7B2t6bDDnZsIqLKUrbB e3QQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPB1PEgBtTGPtfoA5N27wX5LgKj+qx76ek5O3VKQk53atSo6eSbY 6KwON/c1w5IAfuvIYGDSrKZ3tcg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224GE4K9APaFY8RyL1HShPFwb85POF2EW6jJT7D8A5NOSaLEcdWwpViJi3HsGwJUwZl8zMnrlw== X-Received: by 10.98.9.67 with SMTP id e64mr4515787pfd.230.1517975605157; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Pro-2016.lan (c-73-71-144-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [73.71.144.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o82sm1067364pfj.73.2018.02.06.19.53.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:53:24 -0800 (PST) To: Andrey Andreev Cc: Benjamin Eberlei , Wes , PHP Internals References: <07d9e3a0-d516-aa77-4818-ce8b02e8dd08@gmail.com> Message-ID: <945c2c22-d234-e6a8-dc86-5ec166c27923@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 19:53:23 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/58.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] Deprecation of fallback to root scope From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > It's an ironic coincidence that you use strlen() as an example. > Because it and substr() are possibly the most likely to be overriden, > where we need code to be byte-safe in spite of mbstring.func_overload. Also happens rather rarely, in my impression, since you'd have to a) run mbstring.func_overload which you can't remove and b) still need non-overloaded string functions. And if you are in this rare situation, it's usually better to have explicitly-named function, so that you know what you are dealing with, not relying on subtle details of how names are resolved vs. namespaces. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com