Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101789 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52415 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2018 19:27:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Feb 2018 19:27:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.83.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.83.42 mail-pg0-f42.google.com Received: from [74.125.83.42] ([74.125.83.42:41666] helo=mail-pg0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BB/07-49805-8810A7A5 for ; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 14:27:04 -0500 Received: by mail-pg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 141so1491135pgd.8 for ; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 11:27:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aXZtV6H531hZ1u5kSzFwUeKKljcX9WZ8aivkmEmr/OM=; b=qohmarB5oEVrXuLfURIueVXA5nGC4kncknbN0v5kCdbGazkBGJf1Lm07QYlgiO4swL bzSHnUvOBIpQ60OmlOoz/4p3onsEXnjrICqWUFT60TDJHpih5tiwk0BXa1K5sEYctwJW 16dnuOufIl8ISr7mnElJJhNRfoWB9UrALpz41A4Uwl08MLcFLareB5dmUFHxch1rvAiX n2yhHxj8krQ0jJu7Xaayr9yAT7bMFlusHF3cIaEPCQS5yqnMpxkVQvbi2LaTBKDRTqzr 59HCwAPq3JJe3KAv0q2+wo6IPBnZqGC9nIhiZjt3bN6QCXJZ18McMPmxpS5bGA/K5Cg/ nuVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aXZtV6H531hZ1u5kSzFwUeKKljcX9WZ8aivkmEmr/OM=; b=k71hhLUru8o7nBjm75mNEr8Qe77SI9yUiheqzRP/PhyzJecpnO+Q5UWdPLpG/TEwSh W7rnaoP5tamNJ+6LGxbibv1v67pP6cuJ9F7yh3uHYn//XKvhpIb/3bc6difEMQEjLLUD IIVrI08EU8Z0sGMBzf+5zF15x0KSgFyH97i2+6WH5Z5tAgbCGSuGp53wpgDqsPejdwmg lqZZ1YBsVwbKi76h2+H8vhXVG5i86PurRT6E/NeRS75BnUuN8mEUqRqRhJj8uhz29c+x VkJ9U0zX/XyQF45PuIDq74/QuLKfzfV1tdNHk5WFko4pClDMCDb7km/n5J9+qhH7ufMT 4jdg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPAetHNsp1gL8fnm5LqMCUbd36X1CkATWvvOyL2w8LdQ30iXcPzy YHgnSeTHscX0bf8IbQ9SQwW6PHo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225TmE8sgir+YCawtEppabaWQUg5nrAI+VkPYhWMbwWeWC/mZO7nCsd0RJXEOeRfaPju411GVw== X-Received: by 10.98.181.14 with SMTP id y14mr3455510pfe.216.1517945220350; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 11:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Pro-2016.lan (c-73-71-144-171.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [73.71.144.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm22985620pfh.93.2018.02.06.11.26.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Feb 2018 11:26:59 -0800 (PST) To: Marco Pivetta , Rowan Collins Cc: PHP Internals List References: <59e48427-ce88-58fb-f802-48b7412e480d@hoa-project.net> Message-ID: <83eb5392-81ad-53df-3e7e-61fe135b1bca@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 11:26:58 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/58.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] Deprecation of fallback to root scope From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! >> None of these options is particularly appealing, and this will all be for a >> hypothetical future improvement to the language. >> > > Would proposing a function autoloading RFC together with this improve the > situation? No. Function autoloading addresses the needs of tiny part of the users. While I am far from discounting these needs - they are still valid needs and we may want to serve them if we can - if the costs is to impose a huge burden on the rest of the users it doesn't make it much better. It's the situation of "we just broke all your code" vs. "we just broke all your code, but some of *our* code is now easier to write". Not much of an improvement, I think. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com