Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101660 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23891 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2018 22:14:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2018 22:14:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.216.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.177 mail-qt0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.177] ([209.85.216.177:35852] helo=mail-qt0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 02/AA-28995-732666A5 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:14:16 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-f177.google.com with SMTP id z11so24952851qtm.3 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:14:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=BDUj3e5dORdSh/hy9Pvnl14+9dNf8h46Xc95RCtnVvI=; b=OckQ3fu8RLkkk8Q8HxAmviPUjx6pOQjOW15Ae0JIXPpybIPGAm8RcALwen9HqfZsOA E3169+0tc98xIF+MguVk2DK/S/7L2OUzgFpbC2LPWPqGA44RwWQKe3hHFpngj3dEBwar onNvH8Qkc3UKeuIXSezD3oDIst5lEMozqbO9eK3dFpwwPeU75dqXvM8lZHA6Wx8psPoF ZXjqw6hwnvDovGMtYbIY6H7ka9slaysRWwaiQMtWfOFLucIQ0hEnkkxcKsaItQ1Z8Iqu N5kCcpaqjbyTrSzL/OttFGshQqnNA2MKrbArWCj0GKs1VjbhOlaHJtAo8oU1QzmxpdVd 2sWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BDUj3e5dORdSh/hy9Pvnl14+9dNf8h46Xc95RCtnVvI=; b=j5/t9waZS+XCG4rlYos6mQbqmC0cFmt3T8CG5R4VgUmNOgZqTVtG5N7Ovdz1LReQI0 CGAcVLy8+MRNs5R5bvmuyLrsZXsJIBImxNalbJfqY5RfTg7PnHYqVgFnT9Vbo033Dbm0 Olhy47IKuKaTzNKWfmDql7ESmeQ4+UmXu0khMYCkd97FZVCELSYDobEnxbUMIbg2W2b8 e3bpJtc/2eMmCC1FD4LFj05Ra2WgOJtSgjmjCwGqjUEstPK9Ox5obq+AqftGpv1BaUNi EazTd2CldeJCAdwbcobnzrvDTTJbpce4Wjrj/UiIj95KW0a5Aw21ggT+sqwcQMuUffgS qdSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxyte0maIyXs/NYEbjPbq0bInI8+YW6Bkcvi/TJkDUX43BNNrHFdqI W9yMc3LTlLz8XU2eva9krY4QlsXckX/3zpXZA9eR2w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2269W6VOxZOqLcmIhGRrQE3rklHpDGzttlYd3pmdo84gUkHOkAp1kduOqgcEbCtrPWOMpLJZh6ICnOOQmveBpMI= X-Received: by 10.233.237.71 with SMTP id c68mr558843qkg.289.1516659253365; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:14:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.12.197.144 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:14:12 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [206.252.215.26] In-Reply-To: References: <9a4e54d1-10d8-889e-e705-fe473e2e3713@gmail.com> <3aa2372c-c31a-d41a-f455-35ce400b382b@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:14:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1nHeEIA22xXEHq_hGfnKFjQL5-E Message-ID: To: Andreas Hennings Cc: "Christoph M. Becker" , Stanislav Malyshev , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] null coalesce addition assignment operator ??+= From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Andreas Hennings wrote: > I can definitely say it was not a joke. > Alrighty then... > A: Yeah seems useful, but let's wait (or work) until ??= is > implemented and released, and observe how it is being used. > Funnily enough, ??+= would be easier to implement than ??= because in the case of ??+= we always want to evaluate the RHS, while in the case of ??= the RHS's evaluation is conditional. > B: No one will ever use it, and it would hurt the language. > "hurt" is subjective here, and for every X participants to this thread you'll get X+1 answers on what that means. :p -Sara