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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 00:03:14 +0200
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To: Niklas Keller <me@kelunik.com>
Cc: Sara Golemon <pollita@php.net>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] ICU and the INTL_IDNA_VARIANT_2003 deprecation
From: narf@devilix.net (Andrey Andreev)

Hi again,

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Niklas Keller <me@kelunik.com> wrote:
>
> I think we only have to bump the minimum version once 7.4 is out, because
> only 7.4 will change the default. You only get a deprecation notice now,
> which is totally fine.
>

I disagree that it's totally fine. I mean, it's technically fine (it
still works), but in principle it's not ok to have no option of
writing code that doesn't trigger warnings and notices. Certainly not
for the possible entirety of 7.2 and 7.3 life-cycles.

And yes, on one hand it's the server admins' fault, but all that does
is delegating to framework/library authors the responsibility to
explain the problem to clueless users. It's easy to explain that they
can't use feature X because they don't have Intl (which you can point
to on php.net), they should at least know what a PHP extension is.
Not so easy to explain they'll always get an E_DEPRECATED notice
because somebody set them up with a bad version of some acronym
they've never even had to know of.

Cheers,
Andrey.