Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101525 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70974 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2018 20:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jan 2018 20:01:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=parasane@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=parasane@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.193 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: parasane@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.193 mail-qk0-f193.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.193] ([209.85.220.193:45340] helo=mail-qk0-f193.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 23/45-23177-8A63D4A5 for ; Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:01:44 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-f193.google.com with SMTP id o126so2963410qke.12 for ; Wed, 03 Jan 2018 12:01:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ROWCXuuhplaLEU/W5bGEVzYTmMKuWn7V34nMfFOy1eg=; b=fZyaS+YP3qQZnRuQ/o4Pnbmq6oNaO4BVlItd/YkkQVgzd+X4IyTOpZUi3704ssP2wD nGxUwE/ZMWwOJBr+W3MKvf/W0ZpJgfG8KIdVrRUFjD2lbGzhm+QI5oaKVdygEeUCVXP9 RZuX9NFbeDSl7JTLTkEYk2yfxIm/JEO1672uUVrfn0VXzvloRFiIcr98FLVjRCqWrIoi MfXJDRuJJVQpVXYXngbcorWFTrNjfmBLu4oC5Hq1h0U/jwMyVuG71sbGh0vn/Fn+f+BZ eDTTTELjLww9sSGNk3ECoiD9OxtTlqzmf0wfEWPfrF3AvybD1zbjbkq2Yxyxd58iBGv/ YG1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ROWCXuuhplaLEU/W5bGEVzYTmMKuWn7V34nMfFOy1eg=; b=QVApXoCW0rQCNtjNw6JK6zFjT0I6iYI1EPl5jHNNAzE1axHebZVQ5fI7yr9AkPnEir XntpFZfcSfDj6OP+qBBsi9QhN7y0/tyu7rOqohy/EmXc7c2bX99SolDf3mJYDFjj/A1t ZmyV/wiUZ5CuWV0PTOjq3qjbzhUytkvnQJ0BGyHD2+0IwLtHt2uoDHnoSL1mv8PZDkYq JVdZPq/k/4WQu9VOP43buzCDFi6ERzo7rcnu0RoaHat+RgmBar6EVk5ZAJHRzDCIDzqb SnuusquY0p0DmX25OM+HzELyYvCkbCVfuYM8oMCY3gJWjPNLVGe+w6u431II+Nrnc4Bg coUw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJAhAzDCWxh5KRysue4Dl2u0az/4Jmih/oYaigGK7RtU3LKo8Ng /ju2wZp3RTq3exeLxqsNJubDb6/sGPaElGJH904= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotXlUI7VOPhTh4xIZpg8mXDB8sFjQCdLULas/Hg0rj+UsbPJaJEm5W7i969Sk1PvwIMebsaNzbKyaJ3XpucGXc= X-Received: by 10.55.125.133 with SMTP id y127mr3142307qkc.277.1515009701045; Wed, 03 Jan 2018 12:01:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: parasane@gmail.com Received: by 10.12.137.29 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:01:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1514996204.9241.1.camel@php.net> References: <1514996204.9241.1.camel@php.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 15:01:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1JLrEvt-RsWpYYvaZ9OQjOyM6m8 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= , PHP Systems Cc: Nikita Popov , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Mailing list moderation From: danbrown@php.net (Daniel Brown) On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter = wrote: > On Di, 2018-01-02 at 11:49 +0100, Nikita Popov wrote: >> lists@rhsoft.net, who have recently been >> aggressively derailing > > He was blocked in 2012 already: > > https://externals.io/message/59395#59421 I hadn't even noticed this thread until the flurry of activity kept throwing it to the top of my inbox, but if you remember, that 2012 ban by Rasmus was far from the only time he caused issues. And it's not just with PHP either. Reindl Harald has an established pattern of foul language and harassment of community members in a number of open source projects. In the notes I keep on people who abuse our services, I have his first entry coming up on eight years ago, in July, 2010, where he devolved into profanity and personal attacks because he didn't like something that was being discussed. He's had a number of opportunities to correct his abusive behavior. I, too, agree in second - and even third - chances, but when this pattern of behavior spans the better part of a decade, and racks-up enough entries in my notes that I can remember who he is right off the top of my head, I think enough is enough. I, for one, say permanently ban him and move on.