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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 19:59:18 +0100
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To: Paul Jones <pmjones88@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Mailing list moderation
From: pthreads@pthreads.org (Joe Watkins)

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The precedent has been set already: One of these users was already kicked
off the list and decided to resubscribe and continue to conduct themselves
in an unacceptable manner.

This is a forum for technical discussion regarding the development of PHP:
We must be able to keep conversation focused and one of the tools we have
to do that is restricting who is able to post. It seems perfectly
reasonable to exercise that power in order to improve the quality of
conversation and keep it focused.

Banning or suspending these users, and anyone else incapable of conducting
themselves reasonably, will serve that purpose.

Let's remember that there are a large number of people on the sidelines
that are not subscribed to the list directly, but choose to use news
readers, or the excellent externals.io; They may not able to filter
messages from any individuals, so they are in effect forced to navigate
through these "contributions" from problematic posters. That's not fair to
them, at all. All of the conversations here are a matter of public record,
not only existing in your mail client, or inbox, or whatever ... We can and
should be eliminating noise from that public record.

Cheers
Joe



On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Paul Jones <pmjones88@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > On Jan 3, 2018, at 12:35, Joe Watkins <pthreads@pthreads.org> wrote:
> >
> > You don't get to conduct yourself however you want without consequence.
>
> Sure. The question then, is, what is the proper consequence? I hold that
> it is not "banning" or "suspension" (which may or may not actually be
> within the delegated powers of anyone on this list). Instead, it is "to be
> ignored, by those who choose to ignore you."
>
>
> --
> Paul M. Jones
> pmjones88@gmail.com
> http://paul-m-jones.com
>
> Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP
> https://leanpub.com/mlaphp
>
> Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP
> https://leanpub.com/sn1php
>
>

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