Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101520 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62333 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2018 18:45:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jan 2018 18:45:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.161.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.161.173 mail-yw0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.161.173] ([209.85.161.173:43426] helo=mail-yw0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BD/83-23177-FB42D4A5 for ; Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:45:19 -0500 Received: by mail-yw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id n25so887905ywh.10 for ; Wed, 03 Jan 2018 10:45:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=lixgzk1WJDB85UL3myW8DYpDfBoBLhXx/W8s76PJDqQ=; b=RjcbumdO98CMRMASZS3cRFubW6WHw/az9sUDJ/jCS+j4668z1RrB/hEZtSmMa+CZbu wO++NJbhwLZPHsvc/ifD866i52Ac5zTiFDi1L67OoQnzS4mnxa1fBBlb6CE7RvEcyXgU YywjrEQxz4fyYo+vaQWezmygQpGmq3jepzsjUTbdSY51fjBy10M2IJgLtlMJdiq+b9RI 6ZmLThxGCIqV/kO+dsAw2jwgXOeBurLufzOXHQUQj3g1LHCt0kLjDaaJjBNVZWf0SqHQ +RMtSM4zceKWx2FKwsSbKJ/FoZf3aJTt8ylil5fUCTZ1ZXtEILUqA1KK0gZqgYwQGBF+ jmAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=lixgzk1WJDB85UL3myW8DYpDfBoBLhXx/W8s76PJDqQ=; b=s7TMHQZHwP6C0TPbUdQ6LHK82ySa/aCRA9Xf1YaQ0TQN8JbKKkfTGjOV3s/l3psA+j rsRmqJk+adChtH1f+dtQfDeeuhgE0j7ZytZtWEoa0pFmhjb6lPI+1Ylwr93sPZrNUcJS fEZGZ1ALvmU6aWZPMxKWLXX1gT30Y6Z+5GWcWFAMENOM8Bz0OVEKvlpbuOoNltzKueYt C4qtcFbnmpx7GRP5ykQsvvFkZ+tz0FchDMZYcR7baLJPTOShzmOxk2v9uWE3T5lkgC5h zQNJh54Wxt3KTN2mSSkh5PTNWzD1JG/0d9UeFHVkhVzvCU0Nqu9yztz7maR2sxdC4z2b rQGA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mLnFc55rhMIy0AxVzmHn6pl5Hv545rZSqvnRz1LJ8kCykgKHWKh kOLdD6PapMS/UOT14VsZ8RA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBoscP1/WX63/PV2RSAT1QCCDniHi1dIOxQlll7IQtP1w/WPCTh/NGtGAiQBPZiHTfaWKxDb9Lw== X-Received: by 10.129.141.9 with SMTP id d9mr2111938ywg.129.1515005116936; Wed, 03 Jan 2018 10:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from samurai.attlocal.net (107-223-28-39.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net. [107.223.28.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q81sm634043ywb.78.2018.01.03.10.45.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jan 2018 10:45:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:45:13 -0600 Cc: PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <20468E8B-D436-4AC7-ACC5-847BBFB917BB@gmail.com> References: To: Joe Watkins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Mailing list moderation From: pmjones88@gmail.com (Paul Jones) > On Jan 3, 2018, at 12:35, Joe Watkins wrote: >=20 > You don't get to conduct yourself however you want without = consequence. Sure. The question then, is, what is the proper consequence? I hold that = it is not "banning" or "suspension" (which may or may not actually be = within the delegated powers of anyone on this list). Instead, it is "to = be ignored, by those who choose to ignore you." --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php