Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101497 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13693 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2018 08:22:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jan 2018 08:22:17 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 62.31.75.76 76.75-31-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk Received: from [62.31.75.76] ([62.31.75.76:28966] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 50/1B-23177-8B29C4A5 for ; Wed, 03 Jan 2018 03:22:16 -0500 Message-ID: <50.1B.23177.8B29C4A5@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 08:22:10 -0000 Lines: 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3564.1216 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3564.1216 X-Posted-By: 62.31.75.76 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Mailing list moderation From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston") "Thomas Punt" wrote in message news:AM4PR0901MB1265E675E7965065989892E5F9190@AM4PR0901MB1265.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com... > >Hi! > >> Hi, >> >> This mail is going to both the systems group and internals mailing list. >> >> I would like to request a mailing list suspension for the users >> tonymarston@hotmail.com and lists@rhsoft.net, who have recently been >> aggressively derailing the "Scalar Pseudo-type" thread, despite requests >> to >> moderate their participation both in that thread, and on a number of >> previous instances -- this is certainly not the first time these two >> users >> have converted an RFC discussion into a dick measuring contest. > >+1 > >They've generated so much unnecessary noise on this mailing list that >I've had to set up rules in Outlook to automatically mark their emails as >read in order to skip past them. > >Let's keep discussions on the mailing list on topic and fruitful. > >-Tom You may not like what I have to say, but that is no reason to ban me from saying it. I believe in democracy and free speech, and by banning or suspending me you are effectively banning the right to free speech. As a long time user of PHP I earn a living by selling my software all over the world, so I have a vested interested in seeing that the language is not changed in a detrimental way. I have seen too many RFCs which do not provide genuine benefits for the greater PHP community, instead they pander to the personal whims of a vociferous minority who want to change the language to suit their personal coding style, or to fit their idea of purity. As for all this so-called "dick measuring" if you bothered to read the posts you should see that I try to keep my comments as civil as possible, but when some prat attacks me personally on this list then I have the right to defend myself. You should focus your attention of those who make personal attacks and not those who are defending themselves. -- Tony Marston