Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101474 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36868 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2018 08:28:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jan 2018 08:28:42 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 62.31.75.76 76.75-31-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk Received: from [62.31.75.76] ([62.31.75.76:13465] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F4/51-23177-9B24B4A5 for ; Tue, 02 Jan 2018 03:28:41 -0500 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net References: <72392123-d37b-26df-6886-218f48205f8a@fleshgrinder.com> <58A5ABDF-AA25-46D4-83E7-4DE72E3DFF5E@gmail.com> <757270790.33iDQ9MZ2V@vulcan> <4b55eed1-8656-ff70-e4e9-ad5e40213405@rhsoft.net> <73.EE.47595.179574A5@pb1.pair.com> <50caeb2d-62b6-167d-726e-e0e11ea201f3@lsces.co.uk> <3F.A0.18298.BBDF94A5@pb1.pair.com> <96908b43-e2b3-923a-5452-903f26838e7b@rhsoft.net> In-Reply-To: <96908b43-e2b3-923a-5452-903f26838e7b@rhsoft.net> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 08:28:32 -0000 Lines: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3564.1216 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3564.1216 X-Posted-By: 62.31.75.76 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Scalar Pseudo-type From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston") wrote in message news:96908b43-e2b3-923a-5452-903f26838e7b@rhsoft.net... > > > >Am 01.01.2018 um 10:21 schrieb Tony Marston: >> Any attempt to make typehinting (or type enforcement as it has now >> become) is simply adding complications to the language which do not >> provide benefits to the greater PHP community, just a minority of poor >> coders who want the language to trap the bugs that they create in their >> code. There are some of us out there who are capable of writing bug-free >> code without type enforcement, so this RFC (and anything else connected >> with type hinting/enforcement) is something we don't need to use, >> therefore it has no benefits for us. > >breaking news: >nobody is enforces anything to you > >just don't use features you don't want to use but fix your dirty attitude >that everything you don't need should be voted down! I never said that just because I personally won't use a proposed feature that it should be voted down. It should only be voted up if it can provide benefits to the greater PHP community and not just a few individuals. I specifically said that if you don't understand an RFC or the benefits that it is supposed to provide then you should vote it down, otherwise you could be held responsible for allowing the language to be corrupted. >"There are some of us out there who are capable of writing bug-free code" >is a laughable argumentation anyways Why is that laughable? You appear to want to make the language more complicated just to catch the bugs that you keep creating. Some of us have learned how not to write such buggy code in the first place. -- Tony Marston