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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Scalar Pseudo-type
From: mdwheele@ncsu.edu (Dustin Wheeler)

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> On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:33 AM, "lists@rhsoft.net" <lists@rhsoft.net> wrote:=

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>> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:27 schrieb Tony Marston:
>> "Michael Morris"  wrote in message news:CAEUnE0e67q2HMX8bmFjy5Mx8GMfxD=3D=
dNbSwF9cSuYntyn8xP8A@mail.gmail.com...
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>>>> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrot=
e:
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>>>> Not being able to vote, many of us have no option to complain about the=

>>>> way things are going. Currently there seems to be several styles of PHP=

>>>> form the nice and simple untyped version I moved to from very strictly
>>>> typed hard compiled code I'd been using up until then, through to
>>>> current code which is reliant on third party things like PSR and
>>>> Composer and expects only strictly typed PHP.
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>>> This is born of the fact that while ignoring datatype makes learning PHP=

>>> easier, it makes using it harder - especially when testing.
>> I strongly disagree. I have been using PHP since 2001 and I have never us=
ed type hinting in any form whasoever. Does it make testing more difficult? N=
o, it does not
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> "I have never used type hinting in any form whasoever" - so how can you be=
 qualified at all to tell anything about the difference how it would be if y=
ou would have used it?

Could the discussion be re-centered around the RFC at-hand rather than measu=
ring "ego"? It seems that any thread that has both rhsoft and Tony involved d=
evolves into a competition of opinion without much attempt to meet in the mi=
ddle or understand one another.=20

Thanks.=20=