Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:101466 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48077 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2017 15:33:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Dec 2017 15:33:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lists@rhsoft.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lists@rhsoft.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain rhsoft.net designates 91.118.73.15 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lists@rhsoft.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 91.118.73.15 mail.thelounge.net Received: from [91.118.73.15] ([91.118.73.15:23063] helo=mail.thelounge.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 06/05-47595-653094A5 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 10:33:43 -0500 Received: from srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net (Authenticated sender: h.reindl@thelounge.net) by mail.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE MTA) with ESMTPSA id 3z8kr33MjLzXMR for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:33:39 +0100 (CET) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <72392123-d37b-26df-6886-218f48205f8a@fleshgrinder.com> <58A5ABDF-AA25-46D4-83E7-4DE72E3DFF5E@gmail.com> <757270790.33iDQ9MZ2V@vulcan> <4b55eed1-8656-ff70-e4e9-ad5e40213405@rhsoft.net> <73.EE.47595.179574A5@pb1.pair.com> <50caeb2d-62b6-167d-726e-e0e11ea201f3@lsces.co.uk> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:33:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-CH Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Scalar Pseudo-type From: lists@rhsoft.net ("lists@rhsoft.net") Am 31.12.2017 um 11:27 schrieb Tony Marston: > "Michael Morris"  wrote in message > news:CAEUnE0e67q2HMX8bmFjy5Mx8GMfxD=dNbSwF9cSuYntyn8xP8A@mail.gmail.com... >> >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:37 AM, Lester Caine wrote: >> >>> >>> Not being able to vote, many of us have no option to complain about the >>> way things are going. Currently there seems to be several styles of PHP >>> form the nice and simple untyped version I moved to from very strictly >>> typed hard compiled code I'd been using up until then, through to >>> current code which is reliant on third party things like PSR and >>> Composer and expects only strictly typed PHP. >> >> This is born of the fact that while ignoring datatype makes learning PHP >> easier, it makes using it harder - especially when testing. > > I strongly disagree. I have been using PHP since 2001 and I have never > used type hinting in any form whasoever. Does it make testing more > difficult? No, it does not "I have never used type hinting in any form whasoever" - so how can you be qualified at all to tell anything about the difference how it would be if you would have used it?